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tc1cat 09-03-2010 12:41 PM

Re: 1/16 Bucyrus-Monighan Walking Dragline
 
Was watching this build on the Garden and have been constantly amazed by what you have made. Being a machinist by trade, lets me know how much time you have invested in this build. Hopefully, I will see this outstanding machine built and painted digging in some dirt in the near future.

9W Monighan 09-03-2010 09:22 PM

Re: 1/16 Bucyrus-Monighan Walking Dragline
 
Since I don't have anything new to add I'll be posting some old build photos for everybody's entertainment. Here's a shot of the tub removed from the rotating frame showing the rotary slip ring that transfers the power up to the machinery deck. Notice the 135# marking. That was the weight of the rotating frame less walking cams.
[IMG]http://a.imageshack.us/img509/9978/9wmodel001xz8.jpg Uploaded with ImageShack.us[/IMG]

[IMG]http://a.imageshack.us/img509/6051/9wmodel002rd1.jpg Uploaded with ImageShack.us[/IMG]

Here's another old picture of the revolving frame....
[IMG]http://a.imageshack.us/img516/1873/9wmodel006jk5.jpg Uploaded with ImageShack.us[/IMG]

This one should have been in the earlier post on the swing gear box that shows me fitting the box for proper gear alignment on the deck.
[IMG]http://a.imageshack.us/img124/9027/9wmodel011ji0.jpg Uploaded with ImageShack.us[/IMG]

modelman 09-03-2010 09:44 PM

Re: 1/16 Bucyrus-Monighan Walking Dragline
 
Nice work steve-in pics 1 & 2 I see holes tapped on the main rails between the swing gear and the slip ring. Just curious, what are these holes for?

9W Monighan 09-03-2010 10:26 PM

Re: 1/16 Bucyrus-Monighan Walking Dragline
 
Ah, that was a huge mistake! I originally was going to make collector rings like the real machine only 14 circuits. I bought a $45 piece of Static dissipating UHMW plastic to machine out then press copper rings in each. After I spent a whole day machining them I was reading that the material was a good insulator only to find that was a typo in the McMaster Carr book. Static Dissipating CONDUCTS electricity! The salesman said I could send the mtl back but I told him I already cut it up. So I scrapped the idea and started buying rotary slip rings that came up on Ebay and I bought several to try. Now I know how much current the machine uses I may be able to put a slip ring in with more conductors. I have one the same size and make but 24 wires. With this type I could hard wire the whole machine and forget about using a radio to control it.

mog 09-04-2010 09:30 AM

Re: 1/16 Bucyrus-Monighan Walking Dragline
 
looks good mabey i can get you some pic of a P&H 9020 it's going down hear on tusday and they are going to be lifting the tub off the center pin BIG JOB hope to get out of the shop and see how they lift it. i saw some mammoet trucks in town not shere if they will be doing the lift.

modelman 09-04-2010 01:20 PM

Re: 1/16 Bucyrus-Monighan Walking Dragline
 
Thanks steve-I really like that slip ring you used. The one I used in my shovel had such small wires I really struggled with it. Also I needed more wires.

dirtpusher9 09-05-2010 10:45 PM

Re: 1/16 Bucyrus-Monighan Walking Dragline
 
Hey Steve, you being a fine machinist, it sure would be cool if you could build the hydraulic pumps we use in this hobby. The kind off work you produce it would be an easy build. And it would keep the money in the good ol USA.

9W Monighan 09-07-2010 12:03 AM

Re: 1/16 Bucyrus-Monighan Walking Dragline
 
I would have to see one. I could add this to my long list of things people want me to make along with my own projects:D

9W Monighan 09-08-2010 12:38 PM

Re: 1/16 Bucyrus-Monighan Walking Dragline
 
Here's some pictures of the load drive and hoist drum parts....
Hogging out a pice of 2x4 steel.
http://a.imageshack.us/img294/4864/9wmodel010ca2.jpg

Profile
http://a.imageshack.us/img206/4649/9wmodel011kj1.jpg

Walking jaw clutch
http://a.imageshack.us/img301/2530/9wmodel012ed0.jpg

One of the bronze two piece bushings on load shaft
http://a.imageshack.us/img291/7711/9wmodel013jq1.jpg

milling out the bearing support for the walking pinion
http://a.imageshack.us/img179/6388/9wmodel014ot4.jpg

Boring a bearing cap
http://a.imageshack.us/img294/5759/9wmodel015qu9.jpg

Ditto
http://a.imageshack.us/img206/953/9wmodel016mo1.jpg

Some parts of the main machinery frame side
http://a.imageshack.us/img301/103/9wmodel017um8.jpg

Mock up of load drum
http://a.imageshack.us/img291/4439/9wmodel018hh8.jpg

Mounting hole for walking shaft bearing block
http://a.imageshack.us/img249/2491/9wmodel019wp5.jpg

Just fit on the table
http://a.imageshack.us/img516/7149/9wmodel020nd9.jpg

boring hoist motor mount
http://a.imageshack.us/img510/1655/9wmodel023gq5.jpg

Cutting Hoist laggin
http://a.imageshack.us/img259/5889/9wmodel028ha1.jpg

Hoist assembly parts
http://a.imageshack.us/img516/7203/9wmodel024qy3.jpg

assembled hoist
http://a.imageshack.us/img249/2011/9wmodel025cy1.jpg

pugs 09-08-2010 12:42 PM

Re: 1/16 Bucyrus-Monighan Walking Dragline
 
Very nice work

sparkycuda 09-08-2010 04:04 PM

Re: 1/16 Bucyrus-Monighan Walking Dragline
 
This model is just amazing... The hoist drum/shaft assy looks just like the ones that have come through our repairs shops over the years. Showed the picture to one of our service techs and he was hard-pressed to believe it was a 1/16 model! Just a marvel of machine work.

Ken

tracksntreadslou 09-08-2010 09:11 PM

Re: 1/16 Bucyrus-Monighan Walking Dragline
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sparkycuda (Post 5295)
This model is just amazing... The hoist drum/shaft assy looks just like the ones that have come through our repairs shops over the years. Showed the picture to one of our service techs and he was hard-pressed to believe it was a 1/16 model! Just a marvel of machine work.

Ken

I agee Great work steve..If you need some phots of a Jung Pump torn down let me know ...These pumps are rated for a 120 bar ...think thats whats running Ed machine

Hey Steve I have access to all kinds of coal about 30 minutes away ..Say the word and i will get a couple pickup loads and bury a layer in my back yard .LOL ..would give you a couple years work..after you strip then we can haul it over to "Steamer" robs and he can run it in his locomotives :D

9W Monighan 09-08-2010 09:27 PM

Re: 1/16 Bucyrus-Monighan Walking Dragline
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tracksntreadslou (Post 5337)
I agee Great work steve..If you need some phots of a Jung Pump torn down let me know ...These pumps are rated for a 120 bar ...think thats whats running Ed machine

Hey Steve I have access to all kinds of coal about 30 minutes away ..Say the word and i will get a couple pickup loads and bury a layer in my back yard .LOL ..would give you a couple years work..after you strip then we can haul it over to "Steamer" robs and he can run it in his locomotives :D

I don't need to look very far, about 25'below my house the Pittsburgh seam is there that's about 9' thick:D

tracksntreadslou 09-08-2010 09:39 PM

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Lol...Maybe about 200 years of work for the 9W :):D

SmallHaul 09-08-2010 09:49 PM

Re: 1/16 Bucyrus-Monighan Walking Dragline
 
Steve, thanks for taking the time to re-post these pictures! More, more...

It still amazes me to look at all of the work you have done.

dirtpusher9 09-09-2010 08:22 PM

Re: 1/16 Bucyrus-Monighan Walking Dragline
 
Wish you could work on this thing all the time, I'm ready to see it finished. It's going to be sweet.

9W Monighan 09-10-2010 09:15 AM

Re: 1/16 Bucyrus-Monighan Walking Dragline
 
Here are some photos of the walking machinery. I can't seen to find more. I wonder if that roll of film is still in my old camera that quit before I used digital.

Mock up of the upper and lower pices
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/5...4d39843co4.jpg

Rough Milling the kidney shape on the matching half's
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/1...1396866ox6.jpg

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/7...6964934tu4.jpg

Final finish and rounding over the track
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/6...1272386la6.jpg

Profiling the T shaped pieces that that cam pushes against
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/1...1151859cx9.jpg
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/8...3889513rb4.jpg
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/1...1162749qh2.jpg
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/8...3889513rb4.jpg

More milling and drilling
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/3...1124493yn4.jpg
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/7...7916595jb1.jpg

Cam Milling
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/4...9900372jf8.jpg

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/1...4281898yo3.jpg

Matching the square drive on walking shaft for a perfect press fit
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/3...2824092vj1.jpg
Milling the mount on the shoe
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/7...8943977co7.jpg

Milling the taper and bull nose on the bottom of walking unit
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/1...a994127he5.jpg

2 almost completed walking units
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/4...6347583he8.jpg

Thorsteenster 09-10-2010 09:20 AM

Re: 1/16 Bucyrus-Monighan Walking Dragline
 
Good God you've got a lot of time invested in this, and it shows. Awesome work on the machining.
I've never heard of such a machine until I saw you on Scale4x4 and had to a search to see what it was.
I can't wait to see a vid of yours in action.

9W Monighan 09-10-2010 09:25 AM

Re: 1/16 Bucyrus-Monighan Walking Dragline
 
Here's the link to my videos. There are some crude videos there of it's progression so far.
http://www.youtube.com/user/Scentlessapprentice9

D8R 09-10-2010 03:04 PM

Re: 1/16 Bucyrus-Monighan Walking Dragline
 
What CAD program do you use?
I was lucky to get digital readout on my milling machine but how funny to have a CNC.
Guess that out of budget for modelling purpose only.

Very impressing model, do you count hours put into it?

9W Monighan 09-10-2010 04:37 PM

Re: 1/16 Bucyrus-Monighan Walking Dragline
 
Dan, I have a older version of BobCad V19 and it works ok for some things but can't do all the functions on my control without tweaking things some. I have their newer 2007 (V22?) but I hate it and wasted my money on it. I'm just an old dog who's processor can't take in much more info:D
As far as hours, who's counting. I'll be going into my 9th year soon. I did keep some track of the milling of the bigger walking parts and it was around 100hrs.

9W Monighan 09-14-2010 09:15 AM

Re: 1/16 Bucyrus-Monighan Walking Dragline
 
Another flashback that took me about 3 weeks in the evenings to machine out the fairlead from a 3'' x 3'' block of steel turning it 90deg each side.
http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/5...odel001jj6.jpg

http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/3...odel011oq0.jpg

http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/5...odel012pa9.jpg

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/6...odel013ap1.jpg

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/6...odel014ux0.jpg

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/7...odel015ao4.jpg

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/6...odel019ha3.jpg

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/5382/9wmodel020ta1.jpg

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/3...odel021fq6.jpg

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/6...odel023hp1.jpg

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/2...odel024vx7.jpg

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/2...odel025wz4.jpg

tc1cat 09-14-2010 09:45 AM

Re: 1/16 Bucyrus-Monighan Walking Dragline
 
Always nice to see your work in progress shots. Wish I had the space for a full sized mill and lathe:(. Guess I will just have to plug along with my Sherlines! Still need to upgrade the CNC version. Looks like next year at the earliest now. Too many home improvements and vehicle repairs for this year.

D8R 09-14-2010 02:31 PM

Re: 1/16 Bucyrus-Monighan Walking Dragline
 
Those parts are like arts, guess that with a CNC machine , you still have to put in hour of design of the part in CAD program. Best is that it can be reproduced from files if needed. Have not had any chance yet to test CNC milling but do a lot with laser cut with very good results from CAD drawings.
Hours, weeks or years, who counts but I couldn´t resist to ask, that´s no 1 question when showing the models, my model was started also 8 years ago but there has been some time without anything happening.
Dan

9W Monighan 09-15-2010 08:29 PM

Re: 1/16 Bucyrus-Monighan Walking Dragline
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by D8R (Post 6015)
Those parts are like arts, guess that with a CNC machine , you still have to put in hour of design of the part in CAD program. Best is that it can be reproduced from files if needed. Have not had any chance yet to test CNC milling but do a lot with laser cut with very good results from CAD drawings.
Hours, weeks or years, who counts but I couldn´t resist to ask, that´s no 1 question when showing the models, my model was started also 8 years ago but there has been some time without anything happening.
Dan

I don't save my CAM files too often because I machine things most of the time "one off" and to do fancy setups with all the tool changing would take too long. I do save the drawing files and if I need to make a second one in the future I just click the lines I want to machine and then generate a CAM file. Most of the time I just use the mill manually.

9W Monighan 09-17-2010 01:50 PM

Re: 1/16 Bucyrus-Monighan Walking Dragline
 
Now for the fairlead sheaves..
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/7...odel026hd2.jpg

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/3...odel027sg4.jpg

http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/7...odel031um3.jpg

http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/6...odel029gb8.jpg

I used the same fixture for all three different size sheaves
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/9...odel032pr6.jpg

Almost finished
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/8...odel028mi3.jpg

Hollowed out are for side sheave clearance.
http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/5...odel035ar6.jpg

http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/9...odel034wc9.jpg

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/9...odel033id2.jpg

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/9...odel037fl7.jpg

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Boring the wheel for bearing
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/4...odel039rz7.jpg

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/2...odel040wp5.jpg

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/7...odel041lz3.jpg

Almost ready to cut loose.
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/1...odel042zr6.jpg

Drilling the mounting holes for the guards that protect the wheels from the crows foot
jamming back into them. I still need to figure out how to machine them.

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/4...odel001mo9.jpg

mog 09-17-2010 02:16 PM

Re: 1/16 Bucyrus-Monighan Walking Dragline
 
nice art work that must have bean a very costly hunk of cast or was it a left over from a real job.

9W Monighan 09-17-2010 03:43 PM

Re: 1/16 Bucyrus-Monighan Walking Dragline
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mog (Post 6284)
nice art work that must have bean a very costly hunk of cast or was it a left over from a real job.

That's 1018 cold finish steel. I had that laying around and it looked like it would work. My only regret was,I should have squared the piece up some because when you get to that size it maybe out some.

Snochaser 09-17-2010 04:52 PM

Re: 1/16 Bucyrus-Monighan Walking Dragline
 
Amazing work! Boy I'd love to "play" with a mill.

The one use are using is it CNC?

pugs 09-17-2010 05:03 PM

Re: 1/16 Bucyrus-Monighan Walking Dragline
 
Nice work.

I'd love to play with a cnc mill too.......I own one, just never seem to have time to play on it.

modelman 09-18-2010 02:48 PM

Re: 1/16 Bucyrus-Monighan Walking Dragline
 
Nice work as always steve-What is the "crows foot" you mentioned in the last picture?:confused:

9W Monighan 09-18-2010 07:22 PM

Re: 1/16 Bucyrus-Monighan Walking Dragline
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by modelman (Post 6422)
Nice work as always steve-What is the "crows foot" you mentioned in the last picture?:confused:

Crows foot is just some slang for the socket that the drag rope,dump rope and chains come together.
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/641/1003112.jpg

9W Monighan 09-22-2010 10:19 AM

Re: 1/16 Bucyrus-Monighan Walking Dragline
 
I finally have a little to add. I decided to order the required tubing needed for my boom. Here's some of the 120' of 1/4''&3/16'' round tubing I'm using for the boom lattice work. I'm still waiting for the 5/32'' that's coming from another location. All in all, another $200 into the dragline.
http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/1990/1003500n.jpg

pugs 09-22-2010 10:35 AM

Re: 1/16 Bucyrus-Monighan Walking Dragline
 
Should look really good with a proper boom on it. Can't wait to see how it turns out.

Stuff 09-22-2010 12:17 PM

Re: 1/16 Bucyrus-Monighan Walking Dragline
 
going to be well invested!

9W Monighan 09-23-2010 09:01 AM

Re: 1/16 Bucyrus-Monighan Walking Dragline
 
Here's a drawing of the boom but some small changes and details still need to be ironed out.
http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/6291/scan0001qz.jpg

tc1cat 09-23-2010 09:10 AM

Re: 1/16 Bucyrus-Monighan Walking Dragline
 
I agree. Money very well spent!

Snochaser 09-23-2010 09:51 AM

Re: 1/16 Bucyrus-Monighan Walking Dragline
 
Oh yeah, that's gonna look real nice.

9W Monighan 09-28-2010 03:07 PM

Re: 1/16 Bucyrus-Monighan Walking Dragline
 
I've been trying to get my brain started and try to remember where I was on this part. The Boom hoist. I trying to get the right motor with enough power and output. Right now it's way too slow. If my calculations are correct it would have taken 55 minutes to boom up:eek: That's just not going to work.
Sorry for the BIG pictures

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/2755/3050y.jpg

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/2969/9wmodel010.jpg

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/9388/9wmodel011.jpg

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/2472/9wmodel009.jpg

modelman 09-28-2010 04:52 PM

Re: 1/16 Bucyrus-Monighan Walking Dragline
 
Very nice work steve! I remember this from the garden site but I don't think it was finished. Did you cut these gears?


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