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Hemi1966 04-15-2020 09:42 AM

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I got rest of the pins done :)

https://i.postimg.cc/6qnckDb0/IMG-1452.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/151JG34Y/IMG-1437.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/jSsc13HH/IMG-1441.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/jd6vZY7q/IMG-1445.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/xCWgF058/IMG-1449.jpg


https://i.postimg.cc/XJyk5RWb/IMG-1436.jpg

crueby 04-15-2020 01:50 PM

Re: HIAB X-HIPRO 1058 loader crane
 
Sorry if I missed it from earlier, but what is the function of the elongated plates on the pins?

Hemi1966 04-15-2020 10:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by crueby (Post 168747)
Sorry if I missed it from earlier, but what is the function of the elongated plates on the pins?

If you mean these, here's the explanation:


https://i.postimg.cc/j2yrvHmF/Small.png

Azonic 04-16-2020 06:24 AM

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Looks very nice!

Mount it to your workbench and use it as your shop crane! :)

Hemi1966 04-16-2020 11:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Azonic (Post 168755)
Looks very nice!

Mount it to your workbench and use it as your shop crane! :)

:):):):)

Hemi1966 04-16-2020 11:31 AM

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First extension done :)
I also made two lifting eyes

https://i.postimg.cc/YSH6nY0m/IMG-1463.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/RFPwZYRc/IMG-1460.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/hG19HvQZ/IMG-1459.jpg

Hemi1966 04-17-2020 10:41 AM

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Second extension done :)
Everything just tack welded. I will made all the extensions, and if all looks fine, I'll weld them completely.


https://i.postimg.cc/1X7WWPfY/IMG-1506.jpg


https://i.postimg.cc/Wz1W6tbk/IMG-1504.jpg

Hemi1966 04-19-2020 09:14 AM

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I've been drawing the extension boom and I got most of the main parts drawn.
I know it's going to be challenging to route all the hydraulic lines to the cylinders :eek:

https://i.postimg.cc/C5hzQWz3/boom-wt-cyl.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/SspXWXqN/Tele1-v41.jpg

crueby 04-19-2020 01:32 PM

Re: HIAB X-HIPRO 1058 loader crane
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hemi1966 (Post 168752)
If you mean these, here's the explanation:


https://i.postimg.cc/j2yrvHmF/Small.png


Hi Ari,


Actually it is these plates I was wondering about:


https://i.postimg.cc/QtXNqw4v/Image6.jpg



The normal round ones would act as bushings/bearings, I think, but I dont understand why some of them are oblong with that extra bolt in them. :confused:

Trucker47 04-20-2020 12:07 PM

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Hey Hemi,

Build is top quality as usual! I assume you are using a TIG to weld? If so what thickness is the steel and how many amps are you running?I just picked up a TIG and have lots to learn!

Hemi1966 04-20-2020 12:21 PM

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It all comes to that where they like the movement to happen. If the cylinder mounting pin is fixed to the boom, there's a bushing in cylinder where the rotation happens. With those freely floating pins, I guess there's bushings in all of the joints.

Hemi1966 04-20-2020 12:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Trucker47 (Post 168797)
Hey Hemi,

Build is top quality as usual! I assume you are using a TIG to weld? If so what thickness is the steel and how many amps are you running?I just picked up a TIG and have lots to learn!

I use 2 mm steel on the column and the first boom. The first three telescopes are 1 mm and the rest I will made of 0,5 mm steel.
The Tig welder I have is this one, but an older modell :

https://www.schweisstechnik-lampert....el-making/m280

It does not show the actual amps, just a percent value, so no idea :)

Hemi1966 04-25-2020 11:56 PM

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I studied how they arrange the oil delivery to the extension cylinders on the full size crane, and I realized they come up with a clever solution.

The oil is run trough the piston rod to the next cylinder. There's apparently two holes running all the way inside the rod from each side of the piston and out of the the top of the rod. If you look closely at this picture you'll see what I mean. There's no rubber hoses, just hard lines.

Unfortunately that's not possible to accomplish in this scale, the rod is only 4 mm thick and over 150 mm long. It would have made everything so much tidier:(

https://i.postimg.cc/L8mN6krp/HIAB-X...-64183-tif.jpg

Hemi1966 05-02-2020 11:39 AM

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I got all the extensions done :)

https://i.postimg.cc/s2tr10JN/IMG_1581.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/1XKhCR1k/IMG_1593.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/G3PChKTX/IMG_1595.jpg

Hemi1966 05-17-2020 12:23 PM

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Some progress with the crane :)

https://i.postimg.cc/pTCsLbbN/IMG-1634.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/vTm31qb4/IMG-1661.jpg

sparkycuda 05-17-2020 03:04 PM

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As usual, a most astounding display of craftsmanship! Your welding machine certainly makes putting the pieces together easier and neat. Awesome!

Ken

Hemi1966 05-24-2020 10:10 AM

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I got the parts for the extension cylinders done. The o-ring grooves on the cap for the piston rod sealing were quite difficult to machine as the hole diameter is only 4 mm. My grooving tools minimum hole size was 4,1 mm, so I had to do some grinding to get it fit.
I also got the rest of the cylinder brackets machined.

https://i.postimg.cc/yd9DCsCT/Jatkosylinteri_2_v20.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/FFZBhmKG/IMG_1708.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/zXGPBMbN/IMG_1707.jpg

sparkycuda 05-24-2020 11:25 AM

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Great detail and precision!

Ken

skeeter 05-25-2020 06:28 PM

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I'm loving this project! You are an excellent machinist to make precision parts that small & still be accurate enough to make them function properly!

frizzen 05-26-2020 01:21 AM

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Beautiful machining, that's coming along great! Touch them with a deburring tool and those cylinder parts are like jewlery.

Any luck on finding the sliding teflon tape, or does it look smooth enough you might not want some?

Post 49, i think the oval bushing plates on the real ones are set up to be either pin-retainers or anti-rotation locks. They usually do step cuts and different sized bushing holes if it's retaining. If it's rotation there's some offset between holes and pin diamater so it clocks the pin in the bore to slow down wear.

Hemi1966 05-29-2020 11:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by frizzen (Post 169040)
Beautiful machining, that's coming along great! Touch them with a deburring tool and those cylinder parts are like jewlery.

Any luck on finding the sliding teflon tape, or does it look smooth enough you might not want some?

I did not even saw those burrs before I looked at those macro shots :)

Yes, I got two different thicknesses of teflon tape.

jerry56 05-30-2020 07:19 PM

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Not to hijack your thread but where did you find Teflon tape.??? I've tried googling it to no avail..
I follow these threads and Frizzen is right the work you do is incredible.....

Hemi1966 05-30-2020 11:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jerry56 (Post 169062)
Not to hijack your thread but where did you find Teflon tape.??? I've tried googling it to no avail..
I follow these threads and Frizzen is right the work you do is incredible.....

If you search Ebay with "PTFE Adhesive Tape" you should find some :)

jerry56 05-31-2020 12:41 PM

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Got it thank you .!!! I was looking for Teflon tape and got all kind of weird hits....didn't think about PTFE...We used it in the military years ago to insulate lighthouse tubes(I know old technology ) ...wanted to put it inside my screw drives....

frizzen 05-31-2020 08:55 PM

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Glad you found a source for some tape, otherwise i was going to have to ask how much you needed and hope shipping to finland wasn't too crazy.

Keep up the killer work!

Hemi1966 06-07-2020 03:18 AM

Re: HIAB X-HIPRO 1058 loader crane
 
Here's a picture of how I placed the ptfe tape (those brown pads on the brass angles).
The second picture is just a closeup of the welds.

https://i.postimg.cc/YC9CyZbR/IMG-1779.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/KvQYfxr4/IMG-1784.jpg

Hemi1966 06-20-2020 11:01 AM

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I have continued welding parts permanently together, there's still lots of seams to weld:eek:


https://i.postimg.cc/Dyq304kb/IMG-1843.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/wjg8mxg4/IMG-1851.jpg

9W Monighan 06-22-2020 11:18 AM

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Wow, you are doing very well with your Lampert welder. I picked up an Orion welder last year. No time for the models but fixed some of my wife's cheap thin steel lawn ornaments.

egronvold 06-23-2020 06:01 PM

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Welds are looking perfect :D

Trucker47 06-25-2020 09:04 PM

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Amazing work Hemi!

How will you sequence the hydraulics to extend in the correct order? Will you make a series of sequencing valves?

Hemi1966 06-28-2020 12:14 AM

Re: HIAB X-HIPRO 1058 loader crane
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Trucker47 (Post 169160)
Amazing work Hemi!

How will you sequence the hydraulics to extend in the correct order? Will you make a series of sequencing valves?

I'm trying to go without any sequencing valves, and hope that the order the oil goes to cylinders, will extend them starting from the first/largest extension.
The plumbing is going to be difficult enough already in this way:)

frizzen 06-29-2020 05:49 AM

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If it does decide it needs help to sequence the segments correctly, you could probably make it work some little plates with a 'metered orifice' installed at hose connections, or making a 'calibrated crimp' in a hard line.

That's some pretty micro welding. I wish i were that good at full size.

Hemi1966 07-04-2020 06:02 AM

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I got rest of the cylinder brackets welded in place :)

https://i.postimg.cc/8zfcWgmn/IMG_1921.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/BvW6B7hZ/IMG_1922.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/d3SQk5kY/IMG-1928.jpg

Hemi1966 07-05-2020 02:51 AM

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I test fitted the crane to my old Tamiya based dump truck to see how it fits :)
One thing for sure, it's going to need some serious support legs to keep the truck upright:eek:

https://i.postimg.cc/wjrvkC8Z/IMG-1937.jpg

thercfreak2012 07-05-2020 09:25 AM

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@Hemi1966 Fit it to that truck just remove the dump body and put a flatbed body on it

thercfreak2012 07-05-2020 09:28 AM

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:jaw:Put that on that just remove the dump body and put a flatbed on it

Azonic 07-05-2020 11:06 AM

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Work of art, impressive!! :jaw::jaw:

Wombii 07-05-2020 09:07 PM

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Work of art indeed. Looking forward to the day we can see a very long video of it working.

Hemi1966 07-06-2020 08:41 AM

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Thanks guys :)

Here's the start of the support legs. (cross section of it)

https://i.postimg.cc/k4B8FFtn/IMG-1947.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/DwPq2zTK/support_legs_v6.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/g2WVFZ1D/support_legs_v5_3.jpg

Hemi1966 07-13-2020 07:21 AM

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I've been machining some smaller parts for the extension cylinders. (The squares on the paper are 5x5 mm.)

https://i.postimg.cc/hv8gc0Bc/IMG-1972.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/xjL9v9bh/IMG-1977.jpg


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