Re: my first semi build (dump)
 

thanks guys, and thanks for the great tips Mike, although I did plan to split the roof to make up the gap in front window pillar but is was getting late last night and I got lucky with all my other cuts , so I didn't want to press my luck ;)

hopefully more to some soon, I really need to make time to work on this.

Re: my first semi build (dump)
 

next update, well in order to make this dump dump, it needs power to move the screwdrive. the common way is to hook seperate motor up to the screwdrive controlled with a second esc and channel, well I wanted to try something different, so with some ideas in my head and friends like Redbull with more ideas and tools, then me. I spend the day at Redbulls (mikes) sunday, and we worked on making a pto style system off the transmission. in order to make this work I needed to make a second shaft come out the back of the tranny. so it would provide power for my pto.

stock tranny.
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...emi/563181.jpg

so the idea is that the 3 speed tranny will operate the pto, meaning I don't need another motor mounted on the truck. so order to do this, we need to make a netural gear so I can make the dump go up and down without the truck moving but I can make it go up with it in gear too. so we figured who needs third gear anyway. .

so take that third gear out.
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...IMAG0024-1.jpg


now on to the fun, the shaft inside the tranny is splined so I couldn't just stick a longer rod in there to get the longer output I wanted so because I need the splines, this is what we did.
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...i/IMAG0025.jpg
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...i/IMAG0026.jpg

we cut the top shaft in half then we will flip the long side around , reattach the shafts with a custom made cupler so second gear lines back up, and now we have a second output out the back.
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...i/IMAG0028.jpg
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...i/IMAG0027.jpg
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...i/IMAG0029.jpg
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...IMAG0030-1.jpg

so I know you are all thinking that the shaft spins all the time so how to you stop the box from going up and down all the time.
this output will power the shaft to the screw drive but this conector shaft (pto) can be engaged and disengaged with a servo. more on that later as all the work is not done on that yet.

I know there will be a few issues and I know there might me some some cons to this setup but I wanted to try something different. and trying something different is fun, or at least that is what I try to tell my wife ;)
thanks for looking

thanks to Steve for the nice coupler he make on his lathe

Re: my first semi build (dump)
 

Wow Jason, very impressive. Thinking outside the box... That's the way to do it.

-Mike

Re: my first semi build (dump)
 

So you're gonna add a gear reduction unit between the motor & trans?

I think it's 50rpm gh motors that ppl are using for their screwdrives. The kit motor is a Johnson 15000rpm. I forget how many teeth are that 1st lower gear, is it 36? With an 8 tooth pinion that would be 4.5 to 1 or 3333rpm on that top shaft. That's pretty fast!

Perhaps an additional planetary or spur gear reduction on the back of the trans & in combo with a reduction on the front of trans with a slower (higher winding) motor will give the necessary slow speed & torque you'll require for the screw drive and slow your trk down to a more desireable scale speed?

Or is that "more on that later as all the work is not done on that yet." part yet to come? :D

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Nice work on the modification and clever idea using the trans to power the dump. It will be cool to see it run.:)

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thanks guys,

Wow Joe, you are making my head spin, :confused: you thinking way to much for me. I am not that smart. lol I get ideas try them if they don't work I try something different. I just hope someday I have a something that works. your builds and videos are pretty much what got me hooked on this rc construction stuff

and yes the "more on that later" did mean I don't have it all figured out yet;).

Re: my first semi build (dump)
 

i like that pto idea alot i think i would find a small gear reduction head off a small motor and attatch it to your pto shaft for the torque your gonna need to lift a heavy dump box of dirt or what ever your haulin awsome idea though

Re: my first semi build (dump)
 

worked on my new box sides tonight here is what I got done.

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...i/IMAG0043.jpg
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...i/SAM_1917.jpg
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...i/SAM_1918.jpg
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...i/IMAG0041.jpg

X2
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...i/SAM_1919.jpg

Re: my first semi build (dump)
 

nice work - I too like the pto concept - anxious to see this one through......

Re: my first semi build (dump)
 

Great ingenuity fabbing up your box sides. http://www.modelltruck.net/images/smilies/ok.gif

A planetary drive from a small drill might be the ticket, afix it to your dump frame & run a driveshaft from the trans to it with your servo operated dog clutch somewhere in the middle.

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just a little update, was able work in the truck some of the day yesterday, here is what I got fabed up so far. and yes the roof is just sitting on there, I have not reattached it yet
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...i/SAM_2062.jpg
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...i/SAM_2063.jpg
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...i/SAM_2064.jpg
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...i/SAM_2065.jpg
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...i/SAM_2066.jpg
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...i/SAM_2067.jpg

thanks for looking

Re: my first semi build (dump)
 

Jason. She's looking more like the A Car every post. I like the way the box turned out, styrene is very tough when it's all stuck together.
Rob

Re: my first semi build (dump)
 

Jason the box turned out nice... Keep up the good work.

~Mike~

Re: my first semi build (dump)
 

Nice work .... Always loved the autocar series..... Keep it goin .....

Re: my first semi build (dump)
 

Very nice work Jason The box looks like it will take a few yards of material. I like the square fender look...
Do you get your styrene in Victoria, or do you order it.

greg

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wow nice job on your box you got some skills

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thanks guys,

Greg I buy the styrene here in victoria at industrial plastics and paints, they sell it in 2'x4' sheets, different thickiness, a full sheet was between $12 to $16 the last time I got it.

Re: my first semi build (dump)
 

What about the shaped styrene, is that at Industrial as well? I was woundering if shavers or that train store carrys it ?

greg

Re: my first semi build (dump)
 

they don't carry shaped styrene, I get that from a local guy here.

Re: my first semi build (dump)
 

thanks for the kind comments guys, well I fiinally found a little spare time last week, and I thought I would tackle a little more of the front fender/rad-grill area. here is what I got done in my limited time.
oh yeah I know the grill post are not straight as there are just stuck in there to give you the idea looks like, I still have to find a proper mesh for my grill.
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...i/SAM_2079.jpg
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...i/SAM_2080.jpg
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...i/SAM_2081.jpg
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...i/SAM_2082.jpg

thanks for looking and I know I am slow

Re: my first semi build (dump)
 

Rad and grill are looking good. Sure like the old school look myself. Styrene is nice stuff to work with and Looking forward to more posts.
Rob

Re: my first semi build (dump)
 

Making good progress Jason... though you'd better hustle it up some or you're miss the summer work season. :p :D

Re: my first semi build (dump)
 

Keep up the good work Jason, love those fenders..

greg

Re: my first semi build (dump)
 

Jason. I've been following this guys blog for about eight months now. I know your an Autocar fan and today he started on them. A great bunch of pictures.
http://truckfax.blogspot.com/search?...max-results=24
PS you can click on the photos they're high res.
Rob

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thanks Rob for the link I will be sure to check that out. maybe it will motivate me to get to work, have been super busy with work and working weekends then kids hockey and baseball. just need to find time to finish so I can come up there and play.

funny I have seen most of thouse trucks when I lived in Nova Scotia. small world

Re: my first semi build (dump)
 

Glad you liked it. I started following him with my FWD. He did a four part blog on them and some of his truck pictures were ones that I drove off the end of the assembly line.
Rob

Re: my first semi build (dump)
 

Jason. I don't know if you've been back to Mac's blog but there's two more on Autocars up.
Rob

Re: my first semi build (dump)
 

Great to see someone else building an autocar! Looks great!!!!!!
Joey

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Nice styrene work. Looking good!

Re: my first semi build (dump)
 

had a bit a of time last night so I thought I would get out the autocar and work on it some more. so here is what I did.
-reattached the cab roof and rough filled the gap where I split the roof.
-made panel for back of cab and cut out rear window.
-got the dremel out and lowered and reshaped the front window to look more round lke autocar.
-fabed up first section or front bunper. (just taped on on pic till I make bracket for mounting.)
and I wasn't happy with the front of the grill that I did do I took it out to remake it, just waiting on new mesh.

I am making slow progress, Just limited shop time right now and my fabing and styrene skills are slow too . here are some pics
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...i/SAM_2260.jpg
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...i/SAM_2258.jpg
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...i/SAM_2257.jpg
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...i/SAM_2254.jpg
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...i/SAM_2253.jpg
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...i/SAM_2252.jpg

thanks for looking.

Re: my first semi build (dump)
 

Coming alone Jason
U got that styrene figured out. Right on !
Get-er-done so we can get togther and put it to work...

greg

Re: my first semi build (dump)
 

You need to get this project back to the shop so we can have more fun making the pto:cool:

Re: my first semi build (dump)
 

:D I must say great looking rig i personly would go with the heavy duty fenders it makes it look much more beefy:D

Re: my first semi build (dump)
 

great job i have some pictures of my autocar i can put up that i made from a king hauler it came out nice lot the build form though! lol
joey

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thanks guys, joey your autocar looks awesome, I hope mine will be half as good as yours where did u get or how did you make your grill/rad?. I haven't worked on this truck in a few months, lack of inspiration and time. I am getting the itch to build again so first will be finishing the autocar.

Redbull thanks for sparking up this thread and getting me going on this again.

Re: my first semi build (dump)
 

Congratulations on your build! Well done!

Cheers

Pip

Re: my first semi build (dump)
 

Sent you a pm with a link to my photobucket lots of pictures there!
To make the grill i took half round styreen and sanded the half round alittle to flatten it!
Joey

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it's been a while but back to work on this just a small up date. It's alive!!!!! just a quick video. thanks mike for your help

click pic to watch video
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h..._VIDEO0005.jpg

Re: my first semi build (dump)
 

Wow, that awesome. If that's the drive off the trans, it works real smooth. Maybe we'll get some gravel in it at the end of the month.
Rob