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ihbuilder 11-07-2010 08:16 PM

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Clyde I just hit it with a quick coat for pics. I hope to blast and paint when done .

td9clyde 11-07-2010 08:26 PM

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ahh thats a good idea then you don't have to fight the rust like i do lol

ihbuilder 11-10-2010 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by td9clyde (Post 10657)
ahh thats a good idea then you don't have to fight the rust like i do lol

yea I learned that the hard way :confused:

I'm thinking of leaving the tracks wide instead of cutting the 1/2" off to bring to scale width . Kinda looks like a wide track . I'm going with the single motor drive , just to see if it is possible in RC . I got pretty much figured out , just the time and parts

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...r/PIC_0635.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...r/PIC_0638.jpg

and a quick peek of this

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...r/PIC_0641.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...r/PIC_0642.jpg

I still have to machine the shaft and bolt together to test flow and pressure . only non calculated variable is the motor ( not sure if it has what I need ) but we'll see :confused: this is just a trial to see if I can make a pump from the scrap pile :o

dirtpusher9 11-11-2010 07:24 PM

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I'm glad your going with one motor and steering clutches, you can be the guinea pig to see if works.lol Any more progress on the pump?

ihbuilder 11-11-2010 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dirtpusher9 (Post 10968)
I'm glad your going with one motor and steering clutches, you can be the guinea pig to see if works.lol Any more progress on the pump?

yes I actually put it together and tried it , have some seal reworking to do . It leaked between pump and motor :( . Yes ,I'll be the guinea pig on this 1 ,and will not give up till it works :D . need less to say nothing will be running anytime soon :( , lot of small parts to make . I need to get some chunks of aluminum to make 4 trannies for the scrapers , 2 reversers for this , valves , and pumps . if the vain is a no go then back to the gears :confused: .

ihbuilder 11-14-2010 09:22 PM

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well I got my pump working :) still got to get a shaft seal , A quad ring just not going to cut it :( ( should've known better :o ) . now on to the next unaffordable part :( valves . I think I'm going to wear this taig mill out with these 3 machines :eek:

IHSteve

Vanisle 11-16-2010 02:32 PM

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Nice work on the pump - a vane pump you say. Wow, nice work. Would a press fit bronze SAE863 collar on the shaft help seal it? Are you planning to make the valves? If so, are you going to do a closed or open hydraulic system?

SmallHaul 11-16-2010 03:15 PM

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Nice progress Steve. Pump looks good!

Those HD brand servos I told you about on the phone don't like to sit for a long time under load, they have so much holding strength that they burn up from heat. So, they probably would be good to move/hold valves.

ihbuilder 11-16-2010 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanisle (Post 11272)
Nice work on the pump - a vane pump you say. Wow, nice work. Would a press fit bronze SAE863 collar on the shaft help seal it? Are you planning to make the valves? If so, are you going to do a closed or open hydraulic system?


I'm might try something off the shelf first . not sure yet on open or closed . as for seal , I just used what I had laying around to try it out .


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Originally Posted by SmallHaul (Post 11275)
Nice progress Steve. Pump looks good!

Those HD brand servos I told you about on the phone don't like to sit for a long time under load, they have so much holding strength that they burn up from heat. So, they probably would be good to move/hold valves.


thanks Scott , any servo holding a load for a long period of time is not good for it , I would think . I'll cross that 1 when I can get to it .

Losiassociated 11-16-2010 05:42 PM

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Steve,
looking good man i must say u r crazzzyyy!!!!!!!!!
LOL

ihbuilder 11-16-2010 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Losiassociated (Post 11284)
Steve,
looking good man i must say u r crazzzyyy!!!!!!!!!
LOL

AAAAANNNNNDDDD getting worse :eek::eek::D:p

thank you Greg

dirtpusher9 11-22-2010 08:24 PM

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Any progress Steve?

woodhog 11-22-2010 08:50 PM

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dozier lookin good keep on fabbin:cool:

ihbuilder 11-22-2010 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dirtpusher9 (Post 11721)
Any progress Steve?

only a little , Joe , welded up 1 track frame tonight had to get 68 steel wheels to the powder coater now got to finish the hubs for them and the next batch . my rollers will be hard ( cummins cam followers :p ) ? for you did you use bearings in yours or just a brass bushing ? I was thinking sealed bearings but may go with oil lite bushings and looks like the $ is keeping me on the make it my self path for awhile . got the shaft seal for the pump just didn't get it in yet .


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Originally Posted by woodhog (Post 11728)
dozier lookin good keep on fabbin:cool:

thanks , Oh I will :p:D lots more to build

dirtpusher9 11-22-2010 09:29 PM

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I used oiled bushings, no wear yet.

ihbuilder 11-22-2010 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by dirtpusher9 (Post 11741)
I used oiled bushings, no wear yet.

yea I'm leaning more toward them It's not like the full size where it take a couple hrs to change 1 .

td9clyde 11-22-2010 10:18 PM

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well we need pics!!!!!!!!!!!! lol i am wanting to see if the one motor and planitarys on the outside is going to work I hope it does cuz i have a few ideas

ihbuilder 11-22-2010 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by td9clyde (Post 11761)
well we need pics!!!!!!!!!!!! lol i am wanting to see if the one motor and planitarys on the outside is going to work I hope it does cuz i have a few ideas

you'll need a lot of this http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smile...mileys-799.gif :D

ihbuilder 11-26-2010 06:46 PM

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here you go Henry :p not much

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...r/PIC_0663.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...r/PIC_0662.jpg

td9clyde 11-26-2010 07:45 PM

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Nice work rollers take forever to make lol

J Hall 11-26-2010 08:06 PM

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You asked by PM for directions on the final drives some time ago...I think on a D7..Did you receive it ??

ihbuilder 11-26-2010 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by J Hall (Post 12068)
You asked by PM for directions on the final drives some time ago...I think on a D7..Did you receive it ??

Jerry , I think that may have been TD9Clyde


the rollers took yesterday + an hr this morn only because of using a bent steering shaft for the stock could only do a little at a time . the front idler rings took some time as that steel was some hard stuff had to rotate my carbide on some of my cutters . took a good couple min. to cut 1 off the stock . now I got to make 2 centers and 4 plates and weld together .

fhhhstix 11-26-2010 09:01 PM

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Progress is looking good Steve keep up the good work and I am glad you took some time for yourself.

Travis

ihbuilder 11-26-2010 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by fhhhstix (Post 12072)
Progress is looking good Steve keep up the good work and I am glad you took some time for yourself.

Travis

thanks Travis , I may take tomorrow yet to finish the front idlers then back to finishing this batch of wheels and getting the next started . from the way it sounds , It may not slow down :D .

td9clyde 11-26-2010 09:51 PM

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yep that was me

dirtpusher9 11-27-2010 11:38 AM

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The track frames and rollers are the most time consuming things on building a dozer, the rest it goes fast.

td9clyde 11-27-2010 02:38 PM

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I use solid for the idlers just for the extra front end weight unless they are spoked then i might mill them out the idlers on my terex and the D 7 are 3 inch solid by 1 inch thickgood and heavy to hold the blades and front ends down

ihbuilder 11-27-2010 03:04 PM

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well I guess I'm screwing this 1 up already :p LOL , not . Henry I'm using what I got laying around , if I need more weight thats another place to put lead ;)

td9clyde 11-27-2010 04:23 PM

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nah i was just tryin to be helpful :p :) I don't blame you a bit i use what i have too and i wined up buy metal alot too it's never ending til you have things built then it's back to running around finding stuff again to me thats half the fun

ihbuilder 11-27-2010 05:30 PM

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Henry , they say dumpster diving runs in my family :p . For hollow idlers they got some weight . the idlers are 4.25 dia . Here's some pics with some measuring tools to show size . The tractor will be 20" long once I get the track frames and finals in place and 13" to top of cab w/out ac unit which will be another .875"

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...r/PIC_0667.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...r/PIC_0665.jpg

td9clyde 11-27-2010 11:23 PM

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nice work i like it keep it up and yea i do dumpster divin too trust me in lots of metal bins ain't nothin wrong with that lol

td9clyde 12-01-2010 06:45 AM

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hows progress comming along i know you don't sleep lol so i know your up to something what ever your up to i bet it looks good

9W Monighan 12-01-2010 09:07 AM

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I just noticed that the tracks are concave where the idlers and rollers run. That's going to make the dozer ride up and down. You're going to have to machine the links flat.

ihbuilder 12-01-2010 10:23 AM

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Steve , they are a little but not like std roller chain . If the bounce is to bad , then I'll have to do some abrasive machining :eek:

Clyde , give me a couple weeks . Making 18 rollers is not bad but when you have 100+ of something :eek:

IHSteve

pugs 12-01-2010 11:20 AM

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Starting to look like something!

td9clyde 12-01-2010 11:30 AM

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wow !!!! 100 pluss of something wow thats alot lol and monotnus ah just think when it is all done look at what you have acomplished keep up the great work those idlers look great i am not that good of a machinist i will stick with what i can do and keep tryin new stuff lol

tracksntreadslou 12-04-2010 04:15 PM

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Steve its coming along nicley looks as though its gona have some weight to it as well...you have some strong motors picked out for it?

ihbuilder 12-04-2010 06:18 PM

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Lou , I was going to go with 1 24V dewalt 2 speed drill motor with steering brakes and clutches BUT for the modeling and an electric motor , seems to be nonefficant . so It will be 2 milwaukee 2 speed drill motors . For some reason cat has 2 electric drive motors in the new D7E :rolleyes: This will be close to the size of joe's D9R

Henry , It's getting time to get someone to run all those parts for me . It ties me up I can't get to other things . :(

IHSteve

doodlebug 12-31-2010 01:47 AM

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Hey Steve, 2 speed motor's will make it operate just like the full size version, with planetary steering. I had a chance to sit in the TD 40 that was at ConExpo/ConAg 2 year's ago, Big! My neighbor has a TD 25B, I get to push the dumpsite with it once in a while. 82,000 lbs of enjoyment. I just joined the forum, and am learning alot from all of you! Later, Neil#? aka doodlebug.

vmilnik 12-31-2010 05:17 AM

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nice work looks good


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