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bigford 04-19-2015 11:25 AM

Re: china kat
 
nope she is a real nice load on the lowboy
http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6jfwawz4.jpg

Radar 04-19-2015 12:06 PM

Re: china kat
 
That is a great pic of that Kat on the low boy and that truck and trailer combo are killer thx for sharing

daddycool75 04-19-2015 12:31 PM

Re: china kat
 
Hi Bigford,

What valve body did you order?

Cheers
Jamie

bigford 04-19-2015 01:11 PM

Re: china kat
 
going to order the morpower off ebay same one rcfarmer is using
I just charged up the batteries and going to mess around with the lowboy and kat

bigford 04-19-2015 08:39 PM

Re: china kat
 
how is the pressure regulator suppose to work if fluid bypasses it?? I assume there is a tee fitting
going into the reg from the blue line
http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/...pshmox66rt.jpg

doodlebug 04-19-2015 08:58 PM

Re: china kat
 
The relief valve only opens when the preset pressure setting is exceeded, or the valves are in neutral (holding position for the cylinders). The picture is correct.
Cheers, Neil.

Cooper 04-19-2015 09:01 PM

Re: china kat
 
Think of it as a pressure release (like a pop off valve) the pump sends pressured oil to valve block AND to the pressure release valve (regulator) when the cylinders are maxed out or no valve is open, or digging pressure is maxed out (like hitting a big rock) then all that pressured oil is diverted to the p.r.v. That is what you can call the regulator, can adjust pressure limit to where you want. I would suggest to get a gauge and see if you are getting enough pressure. Worse case is you would pop a hose off or burst one if pressure is too much. (I would think the hoses would go before the valve seals ?) and think how the cylinders work, only one end has pressure at a time, the other end is just being pushed out and returned to tank. Do you have a gauge? It might be as simple as you just don't have the prv set to enough to pressure and that's why it seems like no power.

Cooper 04-19-2015 09:08 PM

Re: china kat
 
Oh and what does that say after kat in the above picture? I just can't make it out ? :) lol!! I forgot to mention you can get a gauge from McMaster, forget what the threads are but I drilled mine out and threaded m5 threads for hose fittings. The gauges are just brass fittings with a krimped copper pipe that expands/contracts under pressure. And there is plenty of brass to work with before any risk of getting to the actual expansion plate.

rc_farmer 04-20-2015 04:06 PM

Re: china kat
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bigford (Post 126043)
how is the pressure regulator suppose to work if fluid bypasses it?? I assume there is a tee fitting
going into the reg from the blue line
http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/...pshmox66rt.jpg


I can you a pic of my setup if you like. With the help of a couple fellow excavator drivers, i was able to figure my plumbing out.

bigford 04-20-2015 04:49 PM

Re: china kat
 
sounds good to me!!! i need to get mine smoother then coopers cat

Cooper 04-20-2015 05:39 PM

Re: china kat
 
Well if that's how it is, make sure you connect all hoses from pump directly to cylinders and then use a toggle switch to activate the pump!! Should get the Rams screaming!! Lol!!!!

All kiddin aside, don't worry about getting them smooth, first get your pump and pressure settings how you want. Then use the limiting of your servo throws to (end points) adjust how far they open. That will allow the cylinder to be fed by less volume but same pressure. I forget where I have mine set but everyone will be different. Like boom down was almost 30% if I remember correct. Weight of bucket, stick, boom, and gravity help on the down. Any drifting should be one of two things, valve is not centered or compromised piston seal in cylinder. That was the problem I had with my stick cylinder, the piston came loose on the shaft and oil was bypassing the piston/seal allowing for drifting. But get the valves centered, pressure set, pump speed, prv ect before you try and smooth out movements. And most likely you don't have to have the pump screaming to make pretty good pressure. Really need a pressure gauge. Doesn't have to stay in model but for setting the pressure from time to time.

bigford 04-20-2015 06:16 PM

Re: china kat
 
I know ralph but if I cant pick on the Canadians then you will have to do!!!

speedy8305 04-22-2015 12:02 AM

Re: china kat
 
Hey from the photo the Kat looks like it was a good load on the trailer so much that the trailers rear tires came off the ground

bigford 04-22-2015 05:41 AM

Re: china kat
 
there are 3 screws per side going from the bed to
the rear deck that loosened up making the
rear axles lift under load...

speedy8305 04-22-2015 06:47 PM

Re: china kat
 
hey it looks good none the less

bigford 05-02-2015 06:50 PM

Re: china kat
 
well after messing with the cylinders I found them leaking under load
where the end cap screws into the body. I tried to seal them with pipe tape
and tightening them up but they still leak. new cylinder time
the valve body im still not sure about

rc_farmer 05-03-2015 11:59 AM

Re: china kat
 
Do you have the new cylinders? I have the new ones and have found them to leak as well. I going to HDepot and get some sealant and and maybe some new O-rings. If you tighten the caps, you will also find that the inlets are not centered either....

daddycool75 05-03-2015 02:11 PM

Re: china kat
 
I have the new cylinders, They leaked until I used Loctite 542, it seemed to hold.

I tried pipe tape at first, but no luck!!

But remember and have the screw holes lined up before the Loctite sets.

bigford 05-03-2015 03:06 PM

Re: china kat
 
tightening up the bottom cap puts the bottom inlet at 11:00
i'll try the loctite

bigford 05-03-2015 03:30 PM

Re: china kat
 
whats the difference between old and new and how do you tell them apart??
mine look like two rubber cups ontop of another. like the wedico piston
no O-rings


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