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tracksntreadslou 04-18-2013 10:01 PM

Re: Wa 500 Rebuild
 
Nice work Jason ..The way i see it is your making a good thing even better ..Im always looking at ways to improve or make my stuff work better ..Hey can I come over make parts in your shop too ..lol

JDH429 04-19-2013 07:28 AM

Re: Wa 500 Rebuild
 
Keith, thanks for checking in and the nice comments. I hope it turns out to be a nice model. Thanks again.

Lou, thank you, me too. Even if this machine was in great shape id probably still have tried to rebuild it somehow....and anytime.

JDH429 04-19-2013 05:32 PM

Re: Wa 500 Rebuild
 
The Friday Update...

Drilling out broken screws. Threadlocker and painted screw heads always make for a great time..CAD drawing of hole pattern to assist in finding centers in the mill.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-n...9+11.30.10.jpg

On to something much more cool. Piece of 1/2" flat stock.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/--...9+13.38.20.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-9...9+15.54.45.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-m...9+15.56.08.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-M...9+15.57.07.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-I...9+15.59.49.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-v...9+14.40.32.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-h...16.02.18-1.jpg

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-v...9+16.31.06.jpg

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-t...9+16.30.57.jpg

Finally starting to look like something. Might have some free time this weekend to get the front end completed and move onto the rear half.

Espeefan 04-19-2013 11:34 PM

Re: Wa 500 Rebuild
 
Jason, I'm enjoying this project of yours! I'm learning some new things too. I thought you were pretty talented to be making a cab with a 3D printer, but that's only a small piece of it. You're a heck of a machinist too. The new loader arms and bucket bell crank (is that what they call them?) look really nice together. I'll be checking this thread over the weekend to see what is yet to come!

JDH429 04-20-2013 11:29 AM

Re: Wa 500 Rebuild
 
Thanks Nate, and yes you are correct. I have to be honest I had to google the bucket bell crank. :)

Lil Giants 04-20-2013 04:26 PM

Re: Wa 500 Rebuild
 
Did you modify the length of the bell crank at all to compensate the added length of the arms?

JDH429 04-20-2013 05:00 PM

Re: Wa 500 Rebuild
 
No, The difference will be in the length of the connecting rod that goes from the bell crank to the bucket. Working on that shortly.

JDH429 04-21-2013 08:33 PM

Re: Wa 500 Rebuild
 
So after experimenting a little today working out the movements on the bucket with the 1/2" longer arms, I determined the length of the conecting rod from the bell crank to the bucket needed to be lengthened 1/2" also. This worked well through out the buckets movements except when in the full up position and bucket dumping. The center pin location on the bucket for the connecting rod was just about on the same plane as the pins for the arm attachments point on the bucket. This caused the movement of the bucket to bind when turning up from the dump position. I employed the use of the printer and mocked up a connecting rod and block to try different pin positions on the bucket as i knew i had to raise that connecting point up above the arm pins to fix the dump bind.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-O...1+19.44.44.jpg

New mount .400" higher center to center pin location. All up and down movements are smooth with no bind now.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-x...1+19.39.14.jpg

New solid connecting rod.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-2...1+19.40.20.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-l...1+19.37.32.jpg

Arms full up , bucket full down

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-e...1+19.36.34.jpg

Bucket full up

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-f...1+19.37.05.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-9...1+19.35.39.jpg

Espeefan 04-21-2013 08:38 PM

Re: Wa 500 Rebuild
 
That's some beautiful machining Jason! The new bucket bell crank mount turned out nice! Any idea what the max reach is now at? Assuming you may have mounted or measured the rims and tires, just to get an idea.

JDH429 04-23-2013 05:30 PM

Re: Wa 500 Rebuild
 
Thanks Nate! The height difference is only about 1/2" higher. Haven't got far enough to mount the wheels again to check. Figured if needed a bit more I could get that with a quick disconnect if I make one later.

Didn't do this before but should've taken a stock measurement and weight before disassembly. Anyone reading who may have that post it please so I can compare. Thx

dabears 04-23-2013 05:37 PM

Re: Wa 500 Rebuild
 
WOW! turning out killer! You are doing an awesome job with this rebuild!

JDH429 04-24-2013 03:42 PM

Re: Wa 500 Rebuild
 
Dabears, Thanks Man!

Here are a few new pics of some progress.

turned up 2 rear axle pivot bolts for the new rear lower half.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Z...3+16.32.30.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-l...3+16.36.27.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-k...3+16.38.29.jpg

Hinges for the rear

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-D...3+16.48.00.jpg

New mounts for the pump, block and reservoir. I wanted to tidy things up a little. Everything was just floating around and a tangled mess before.

BEFORE

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-I...0+20.47.33.jpg

NOW

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-X...4+15.28.24.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9...4+15.45.44.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-p...4+15.53.25.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-4...4+15.28.08.jpg

Starting to put on some weight.

Brel 04-24-2013 05:30 PM

Re: Wa 500 Rebuild
 
nice work on the loader

RCTech9 04-24-2013 05:44 PM

Re: Wa 500 Rebuild
 
Nice work. How much more than stock do you think it weighs?

Espeefan 04-25-2013 01:38 AM

Re: Wa 500 Rebuild
 
Great job mounting the hydraulic components! I think that's a lot better then having them slide around in the belly of the machine. Looks like you'll still have plenty of room for a battery and the electronics too.

Lil Giants 04-25-2013 11:04 AM

Re: Wa 500 Rebuild
 
The components did not slide around on the belly of the model, the pump & valves are in fixed locations... and more importantly, the pump is fixed at an angle so the inlet of the pump is always submerged in oil.

I see the pump was previously mounted correctly in this picture with it's kit supplied mount at a downward angle, why did you not retain that mount or something similar?

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-I...0+20.47.33.jpg

JDH429 04-25-2013 12:37 PM

Re: Wa 500 Rebuild
 
Nate, Thank you, Yes theres plenty of room for electronics in the rear end.

Joe, Good observation. You saved me some trouble with that. The valve block and reservoir were loose and floating around when i got it.

JDH429 04-27-2013 08:52 AM

Re: Wa 500 Rebuild
 
Thanks to Lil Giants suggestion and my oversight, I made a new pump mount. Also started on the cab but didnt get too far before my welder died. So it will be a few weeks until i can get anymore body work done until the welder is fixed. In the meantime i got some parts powder coated and a few other things done.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-x...7+08.00.35.jpg

Paint cleaned off cylinders

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-9...7+08.55.52.jpg


https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-o...6+12.34.23.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-M...6+12.10.10.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-M...6+12.48.28.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-q...6+12.52.56.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-T...6+12.54.18.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-i...7+08.49.32.jpg

Made a mount for the articulating cylinders.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-k...7+08.00.14.jpg

Parts just out of the tumbler

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-o...5+17.51.52.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-R...5+16.59.57.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-V...5+17.51.25.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/--...5+17.51.30.jpg

Chasing threads. I find this the cleanest way to deal with threads when powdercoating. Larger holes are easily plugged.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-m...5+18.01.32.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-x...5+18.04.43.jpg

And partially assembled to get an idea of what its gonna look like. I changed the direction and am heading towards a later WA500 look with these colors, cab and the rear hood will be slanted in the rear instead of straight back.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-3...25281%2529.jpg

The yellow is actually closer to the 1:1 picture than it looks here.



https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-D...7+08.33.01.jpg

RCP57 04-27-2013 09:22 AM

Re: Wa 500 Rebuild
 
Nice job! Too bad your welder died! It's exciting to watch a machine come together as fast as this one. I like the idea of updating to a newer more current model too. It will further separate yours from the original!

Reg

CAT315C 04-27-2013 10:08 AM

Re: Wa 500 Rebuild
 
Hello JDH429

Yesterday also tried pouring a plaque with Glinder but had difficulties.

The best way I found was to make a hole in the side and then cut with a jigsaw.

Carlos


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