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WhiteWolf McBride 03-26-2013 11:46 AM

Re: LR634 has arrived!
 
Mo,

Have you considered getting a set of the Goldhofer bed-extenders from EC-M? I'm considering it, but I'm hoping someone has better images of the product...


http://www.ec-m.ch/preisliste.html


Some of the model images have other angles, but the only other pic thats halfway decent is on this page down toward the bottom...

http://www.ec-m.ch/modelle.html

Anyone got a set, or able to talk to 'em and ask for better pics of the pieces? I'm sure Mo and others would like better shots, eh?

WhiteWolf
- can't wait to see your Goldie build...

MoRockN 03-26-2013 12:02 PM

Re: LR634 has arrived!
 
I saw those a while back, honestly I don't think I will get them, I don't plan on hauling anything wide enough for me to need them. For now at least ;)

Claus 03-31-2013 12:16 PM

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Wow, I just seen your video for the first time, that thing has fast hydros!

MoRockN 04-01-2013 08:24 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Claus (Post 83216)
Wow, I just seen your video for the first time, that thing has fast hydros!

That's the Nice thing about brushless, I was just working them to show how fast they can be, but I have the valve servos turned way down now for more scale speed. I am getting a brushless pump for my 966 also.

cdm 04-01-2013 01:14 PM

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I thinks its because you guys are comparing brushless to the stock can... there are some insane fast brushed motors out there.

and you cannot really use TRUE performance brushless with the model pumps - you will destroy them. 5800kv will burn anything there is in a few minutes.

they just have less resistance/consumption overhead so are more efficient if you get the kv right for the application.

Espeefan 04-03-2013 01:03 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cdm (Post 83289)
I thinks its because you guys are comparing brushless to the stock can... there are some insane fast brushed motors out there.

and you cannot really use TRUE performance brushless with the model pumps - you will destroy them. 5800kv will burn anything there is in a few minutes.

they just have less resistance/consumption overhead so are more efficient if you get the kv right for the application.

The brushless motors we are talking about here are the Leimback brushless motors, designed to run the pumps. I don't know anyone who would throw such a high KV motor on a pump and expect it to last. Just seems a bit silly to me.

Mitch 04-03-2013 03:11 PM

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Here's what I just ordered from PREMACON::D



pcs Product Article Nr. Singleprice Price
1 x Liebherr LR 634
Shipping time: 3-4 Days
12000001
965,55 EUR 965,55 EUR
1 x Hydraulik Set for Liebherr LR 634
Shipping time: 2 Weeks
12000011
1.004,20 EUR 1.004,20 EUR 1 x drive gear for Liebherr LR 634
Shipping time: 3-4 Days
12000006
134,03 EUR 134,03 EUR 2 x drive gear motor LR 634
Shipping time: 3-4 Days
12000007
27,69 EUR 55,38 EUR
1 x Shovel teeth Set for Liebherr LR 634
Shipping time: 3-4 Days
12000010
26,89 EUR 26,89 EUR 100 x two grouser track chain
Shipping time: 3-4 Days
59000003
4,16 EUR 416,00 EUR 1 x Servonaut SMT, Soundmodul
Shipping time: 3-4 Days
65000010
121,85 EUR 121,85 EUR 1 x Servonaut M220
Shipping time: 3-4 Days
65000018
167,23 EUR 167,23 EUR

Sub-Total: 2.891,13 EUR

cdm 04-03-2013 03:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Espeefan (Post 83400)
The brushless motors we are talking about here are the Leimback brushless motors, designed to run the pumps. I don't know anyone who would throw such a high KV motor on a pump and expect it to last. Just seems a bit silly to me.

Precisely. Its just that folk are comparing a weak brushless to a terrible silver can (nothing is worse than the johnson silver cans, nothing - high resistance, no torque, mediocre rpm, bushings, cheap brushes, poor winds, no ventilation). I tried to put the whole thing in perspective. That's all. Of course anything else you put in there will be better than the stock brushed :)

MoRockN 04-03-2013 03:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitch (Post 83453)
Here's what I just ordered from PREMACON::D



pcs Product Article Nr. Singleprice Price
1 x Liebherr LR 634
Shipping time: 3-4 Days
12000001
965,55 EUR 965,55 EUR
1 x Hydraulik Set for Liebherr LR 634
Shipping time: 2 Weeks
12000011
1.004,20 EUR 1.004,20 EUR 1 x drive gear for Liebherr LR 634
Shipping time: 3-4 Days
12000006
134,03 EUR 134,03 EUR 2 x drive gear motor LR 634
Shipping time: 3-4 Days
12000007
27,69 EUR 55,38 EUR
1 x Shovel teeth Set for Liebherr LR 634
Shipping time: 3-4 Days
12000010
26,89 EUR 26,89 EUR 100 x two grouser track chain
Shipping time: 3-4 Days
59000003
4,16 EUR 416,00 EUR 1 x Servonaut SMT, Soundmodul
Shipping time: 3-4 Days
65000010
121,85 EUR 121,85 EUR 1 x Servonaut M220
Shipping time: 3-4 Days
65000018
167,23 EUR 167,23 EUR

Sub-Total: 2.891,13 EUR

SOooo did you get overnight shipping??? is it here yet?:D:D. Congratulations man, I can't wait to see your build. I am going to order the metal tracks now that they have them in stock, I did get the metal bucket teeth also, but will not change anything unless something breaks.

MoRockN 04-03-2013 04:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Espeefan (Post 82633)
Guys, where is the best place to buy one of these? TTM, Permacon? Somewhere else? I just want the loader kit, with a hydraulic retro-fit, and the track drive. Seems like it's going to run about $3,400, plus shipping, with no radio electronics.

Sorry Man, I somehow did not see this. I ordered mine from der-getreibedoktor.de , he will get the package price for you and send you the info before you pay for it. Just email him and tell him you want the same set up I have. He will give you a good deal if you mention my name.
Good luck!

Ayoub

Mitch 04-03-2013 05:21 PM

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No overnite shipping. They told me that it would be 6-8 weeks (likely 2.5 months) to get everything. We'll see what happens. I plan to powder coat the metal parts once I make sense of it all. Also, I found that the metal tracks need a little work to move smoothly. I had to drill out each pin hole a bit, and mill the inserts. They worked fine after that , hopefully, they have addressed this. Also, I ordered extra, because they are brittle and tend to break.;)

Mitch

Claus 04-03-2013 06:40 PM

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Can't wait to see Mitch's version with the wide tracks! What color are you going to do Mitch?

SmallHaul 04-03-2013 06:42 PM

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Great looking tracked loader! Very nice job on wiring up the lights.

I am surprised at how fast the hydraulics are too. I suspect that it isn't just a better pump motor that makes it move that fast...maybe the internal volume/size/length of the hydraulic cylinders on your tracked loader are smaller than say the cylinders on your Wedico 966 for example and that is why it moves so fast?

Mitch 04-03-2013 08:05 PM

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Not certain on the color just yet. I have to check with the local powder coater.

Claus 04-04-2013 09:21 AM

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I would like to see somebody build a root rake for their dozer or track loader, maybe not the most practical on a toy but would be an awesome model.
http://www.goughengineering.co.nz/Si...2/MVC-010F.JPG

Espeefan 04-04-2013 12:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MoRockN (Post 83457)
Sorry Man, I somehow did not see this. I ordered mine from der-getreibedoktor.de , he will get the package price for you and send you the info before you pay for it. Just email him and tell him you want the same set up I have. He will give you a good deal if you mention my name.
Good luck!

Ayoub

Ayoub, thanks! I'll give Doc Gear a look. By the way, any chance you could share some photos of the model's internals? How you have your battery, speaker box, ESC, and sound unit crammed in there? It looks like it would be pretty tight. Is there more room then it appears to have? I'm just trying to get an idea of where the components fit. Do you think a standard sub-C 7.2 volt battery pack would fit with everything else you have in there, or is it small LiPo packs only?

I'm sure you haven't really got a chance to work the model, but any idea what sort of run times you have been getting?

Claus 04-04-2013 09:50 PM

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I hope somebody adds the ripper to one of these, well, hydraulic ripper anyways. A grapple bucket would be awesome as well.

MoRockN 04-06-2013 05:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Espeefan (Post 83534)
Ayoub, thanks! I'll give Doc Gear a look. By the way, any chance you could share some photos of the model's internals? How you have your battery, speaker box, ESC, and sound unit crammed in there? It looks like it would be pretty tight. Is there more room then it appears to have? I'm just trying to get an idea of where the components fit. Do you think a standard sub-C 7.2 volt battery pack would fit with everything else you have in there, or is it small LiPo packs only?

I'm sure you haven't really got a chance to work the model, but any idea what sort of run times you have been getting?

I will post some pictures when I get home to show you how mine is set up, you can run any type of battery depending on how you place everything. I'm used to RC race cars and truck where we cut all the wires and leave no slack, but in these machines I just don't like to cut any wires just in case I want to move things around, the problem with that is the freaking wires take up a lot of space.

MoRockN 04-06-2013 05:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Claus (Post 83564)
I hope somebody adds the ripper to one of these, well, hydraulic ripper anyways. A grapple bucket would be awesome as well.

Ripper is on the way ;). Gonna take some time to figure out where to put an extra valve and still have space for all the radio gear.

Claus 04-06-2013 05:24 PM

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Ripper, that's great! You might need metal tracks or some extra weight somewhere but still cool.

MoRockN 04-06-2013 05:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Claus (Post 83759)
Ripper, that's great! You might need metal tracks or some extra weight somewhere but still cool.

Was planning on adding more weights anyways but metal tracks are a good idea.

MoRockN 04-07-2013 10:56 AM

Re: LR634 has arrived!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Espeefan (Post 83534)
Ayoub, thanks! I'll give Doc Gear a look. By the way, any chance you could share some photos of the model's internals? How you have your battery, speaker box, ESC, and sound unit crammed in there? It looks like it would be pretty tight. Is there more room then it appears to have? I'm just trying to get an idea of where the components fit. Do you think a standard sub-C 7.2 volt battery pack would fit with everything else you have in there, or is it small LiPo packs only?

I'm sure you haven't really got a chance to work the model, but any idea what sort of run times you have been getting?

Ok here you go, now this should give you an idea how I did mine, they tell you to glue the back section to the body but I did not, it's something that I am happy I didn't follow in the manual. It gives me easy access to the on/off switch , battery change and just makes life a lot easier.
http://i1250.photobucket.com/albums/...psa3f7cfee.jpg
http://i1250.photobucket.com/albums/...ps210c6d13.jpg

Now you can see how everything is laid out, if you wanna use a sub C battery, you would swap your electronics when my battery sits and you can lay your battery when my electronics are right now, so be creative. One thing, nothing should be sticking out above the top black line on the chassis.
You can see my battery right there on the right, the black spektrum thing. Now I have a replacement for it that's $23 from hobby king .
http://i1250.photobucket.com/albums/...psc4373482.jpg
http://i1250.photobucket.com/albums/...ps32a92fcb.jpg
http://i1250.photobucket.com/albums/...ps63a599a8.jpg
http://i1250.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6f221ee8.jpg
http://i1250.photobucket.com/albums/...ps901b2536.jpg
http://i1250.photobucket.com/albums/...psbd5bc5b2.jpg

Now the wiring is done by my friend Eddie , he's a freaking wiring genius and did move everything around to make it fit like it is now.
The run time on that battery is around 1:45min. Mild use that is.

Claus 04-07-2013 11:17 AM

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You really did a nice job of building this, very crisp and clean.

Espeefan 04-07-2013 03:17 PM

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Thanks Ayoub. Is that a metal counterweight, in the rear of the machine? Perhaps a guy could use that space for extra electronics, or a larger battery pack? NiMh packs are pretty heavy. How much does that counterweight weigh?

Espeefan 04-07-2013 06:27 PM

Re: LR634 has arrived!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cdm (Post 83454)
Precisely. Its just that folk are comparing a weak brushless to a terrible silver can (nothing is worse than the johnson silver cans, nothing - high resistance, no torque, mediocre rpm, bushings, cheap brushes, poor winds, no ventilation). I tried to put the whole thing in perspective. That's all. Of course anything else you put in there will be better than the stock brushed :)

Weak brushless? Can you explain that in greater detail? :)

MoRockN 04-08-2013 12:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Espeefan (Post 83844)
Thanks Ayoub. Is that a metal counterweight, in the rear of the machine? Perhaps a guy could use that space for extra electronics, or a larger battery pack? NiMh packs are pretty heavy. How much does that counterweight weigh?

Yes you sure can remove that counter weight, a lot of people do, and you can just use sticky weight on top of whatever battery you end up using. It does however hold the rear bumper/towing hook, just a smaller screw and locking nut will fix it. I'm not really sure how much it weighs though. Way more than 4 NIMH put together , it's so compacted.

Claus 04-14-2013 11:48 PM

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Ayoub, did you see the new Hydraulic Ripper Kit by Leimbach?
http://www.leimbach-modellbau.de/Images/9816(1).JPG
http://www.leimbach-modellbau.de/Images/9816(2).JPG
http://www.leimbach-modellbau.de

caterpillar 04-15-2013 01:57 AM

Re: LR634 has arrived!
 
very nice. will be expensive I guess

Espeefan 04-15-2013 02:22 AM

Re: LR634 has arrived!
 
The ripper kit is only $431 US, according to Liembach's website. That's not to bad, in the grand scheme of things.

MoRockN 04-15-2013 01:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Claus (Post 84535)

OMG! I did not see that. I'm gonna have to order it soon... Thank you for the heads up.

buzzy16 04-18-2013 10:14 PM

Re: LR634 has arrived!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MoRockN (Post 83822)
The run time on that battery is around 1:45min. Mild use that is.

are you saying you 1 hour 45 minutes out of the battery?

I'm seriously considering getting one of these, after a lot of saving that is.

would you be able to tell me the bucket reach?

thanks buzzy.

Kaf343 04-20-2013 08:59 AM

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Ayoub,

Awesome build thread and awesome machine, I am going to get started, (as time permits) to build the same machine, I've had it for a while waiting for some attention. I saw your running a M220 and a SMX, are you also using a BMA? And if you don't mind me asking where did you get the operator from? Bruder? Awesome layout as well.

MoRockN 04-25-2013 04:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaf343 (Post 84951)
Ayoub,

Awesome build thread and awesome machine, I am going to get started, (as time permits) to build the same machine, I've had it for a while waiting for some attention. I saw your running a M220 and a SMX, are you also using a BMA? And if you don't mind me asking where did you get the operator from? Bruder? Awesome layout as well.

Thanks Man. Sorry I just get side tracked and I don't see people's posts. Yes I have a BMA that I tried for a bit but I removed for now until I figure out where to put it. The Operator is from bruder, I just order them from the actual website under spare parts. They have free shipping.

I have an extra BMA if you need one. I got it for a Project that is not gonna be done for awhile.

Kausekaos 11-02-2013 05:59 PM

Re: LR634 has arrived!
 
Great lookin rig man. I want to try to build one but I don't know anything about them.

jack van 11-20-2013 12:10 AM

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that was a great build i have 1 question though how many practice runs backing off the trailer before the video lol ;) :jaw:

tc1cat 11-20-2013 11:32 AM

Re: LR634 has arrived!
 
Ayoub, Every time I see pics of your LR634, it makes me want to work on mine. Sad part is, it is 1 of the last projects on my list of things to do. While mine will be full electric, yours makes me want to drool at the pics. Now to get some ambition and go work on things :eek::eek:


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