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JohnStilwell 11-24-2014 03:29 PM

Re: 4 Hour Bruder Dozer
 
:confused:

that there looks kinda like a grader blade...

Now that I see your fingers for size comparison, maybe you're going for the old school D8 straight blade look. :cool:

RCP57 11-24-2014 04:47 PM

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Not to worry. the blades aren't finished yet! They will not be a carry blade like on my dozer but they won't be a straight blade either.

Kinda like this. http://www.google.ca/url?sa=i&rct=j&...16951949301575

RCP57 11-26-2014 07:32 PM

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A little more progress on the blades today. I'm aiming for the look of a D6 with these so no more carry blades. This style will cut a lot better too with such a light machine.

http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/...ps201ba140.jpg
http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/...ps06a886fc.jpg
http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/...pse14a9468.jpg

Barker196 11-26-2014 10:29 PM

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Unbelievable skills! Would love to have the talent you do

RCP57 11-28-2014 08:10 PM

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Thanks a lot Barker. All I can say is practice, practice, practice! That's what I do but nothing ever turns out perfect.

I made up these little motor mounts this morning.

http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/...psc15fe50a.jpg
http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3053cd13.jpg
http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/...pse06cfd5a.jpg

RCP57 11-30-2014 04:00 PM

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I finally finished up the sprockets for dozer #2 today! They took a long time to make but I think they turned out pretty well.

http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/...psfe4ecffa.jpg
http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8bc73045.jpg

JohnStilwell 11-30-2014 06:54 PM

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Killer :D

I'm always amazed to watch your builds, umm ehh...Craftsmanship !! :cool:

John

Supermario 11-30-2014 08:19 PM

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Those turned out great! Your really going all out on this one Reg and the results are awesome. These dozers are gonna kick a**.

RCP57 12-01-2014 10:51 AM

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Thanks guys. I think they are a little too time consuming for "mass production":rolleyes: but I guess it all depends on what someone wants. I like them a lot and wish they were on my dozer! I got a good start on all the other idlers yesterday so hopefully this one is rolling in the very near future. It will be interesting to see how it works with gear motors vs servos. Hopefully it is more durable!

modelman 12-01-2014 02:05 PM

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RCP57-please understand, I am not criticizing your work. You are doing outstanding work on these plastic models but I noticed on your 1st. dozer the sprocket looked a little small for a scale-appearing look. This last one you made looks larger and more detailed and probably fits the scale better (just my opinion). However, I realize that you are trying to build something affordable for these tighter budgets and saving labor is crucial. Maybe you should offer-2- models. A bare bones cheaper machine and an optional model with all the good parts. Just a suggestion but you probably know what you want out of this. I know from my tries that machining detailed parts takes a lot of time and that is money. I am not a big fan of plastic models but I will be keeping up with this!! Very interesting thread.

Nhrafan 12-01-2014 06:49 PM

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Awesome build Reg !!!!!!! I know somebody is going to be really happy with that D-6 !!!! wink wink lol !!!!! Another home run !!!!!

RCP57 12-01-2014 08:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by modelman (Post 119663)
RCP57-please understand, I am not criticizing your work. You are doing outstanding work on these plastic models but I noticed on your 1st. dozer the sprocket looked a little small for a scale-appearing look. This last one you made looks larger and more detailed and probably fits the scale better (just my opinion). However, I realize that you are trying to build something affordable for these tighter budgets and saving labor is crucial. Maybe you should offer-2- models. A bare bones cheaper machine and an optional model with all the good parts. Just a suggestion but you probably know what you want out of this. I know from my tries that machining detailed parts takes a lot of time and that is money. I am not a big fan of plastic models but I will be keeping up with this!! Very interesting thread.

Yes the sprockets on the first one were just to see if the conversion would even work. I made them up out of two pieces using chunks of stuff lying around my scrap bin. The new pair are one piece and made to look much like a D6 planetary. Even though the sprockets are exactly the same as the original ones I made the planetary hub larger to hide the sprocket and look more "scale". You're right, cost vs build time is almost always an issue so I'd like to keep it simple...Well actually, I would like to build it very detailed but trying to get $1500-2000CAD for a conversion like this might be tough. If people are willing to pay then I am happy to make the parts however they want! I won't make anything like the first drive parts again. I was just thinking that instead of drilling all those holes and making fake bolts, I would just drill dimples and save a bunch of time. When it's finished though, all the critical parts are metal so I guess that price maybe not so out of line. I don't know:confused::confused::confused:


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Originally Posted by Nhrafan (Post 119673)
Awesome build Reg !!!!!!! I know somebody is going to be really happy with that D-6 !!!! wink wink lol !!!!! Another home run !!!!!

I'm glad you like it Keith! I hear Santa has it on someones wish list for Xmas this year so this elf is working hard....:cool:

doodlebug 12-01-2014 09:35 PM

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Hey Reg, set the sprockets up on a rotary table, make a plunge cut with a hollow end mill, the nub left can be the faux bolt. see link, http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...JL._SX342_.jpg Then index to the next bolt position, new plunge cut with depth stop. Clean the rest up on the lathe later. Hope this makes sense?

Cheers, Neil.

RCP57 12-03-2014 09:45 PM

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That's a good idea Neil.

A short video of Dozer number two on the move for the first time. I still have much to do!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4tq...tJ-DusnO8Onw7A

Cooper 12-03-2014 11:17 PM

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Don't know if it helps but all I did on my d11 drive sprockets was drilled the holes and pressed the bolts in. Had to use tweezers to hold the bolts vertical then just pressed them in. Or uhh maybe Santa has room on that list for a printer? Lol. It looks really good, the movement looks strong and fluid. Great job!!

RCP57 12-03-2014 11:31 PM

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That's what I did on my KW build as well. Interference fit is way better than threading all those tiny holes when the bolts are just for show! On the dozer I just drilled all the holes to the right size and glued in left over pieces of filler rod. Once the glue dried I used my 6" disc sander to make them all the same length. Cheaper than using bolts and it looks nearly as good I think.

Hmmm, my list for Santa already has something really expensive on it so I think I will just try to save up for the printer....:rolleyes: I do want one though...

doodlebug 12-04-2014 12:51 AM

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Anybody looked at the Dremel printer at Home Depot yet?
Cheers, Neil.

RCP57 12-06-2014 10:38 PM

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I have been working on these steady lately trying to finish them up. Dozer #1 finally got a paint job and nearly all the track and blade parts are finished for Dozers 2 and 3.

http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4e5e9baf.jpg
http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3ee18a63.jpg
http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/...ps42547117.jpg

I made up this fake cylinder for the right hand side while the left is rigid. It is spring loaded to allow some give while tilting the blade. The result is some pretty serious articulation without binding.

http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/...ps22262c36.jpg
http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5710ea2e.jpg
http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/...ps2d1b5a7a.jpg

1 and 2 sitting side by side. I found some paint that matches pretty well.

http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/...psea35f6da.jpg
http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/...pscfe67757.jpg
http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/...psf1226425.jpg

RCP57 12-07-2014 02:03 PM

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#2 in action...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sS0m...tJ-DusnO8Onw7A

Stuart 12-07-2014 02:54 PM

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Nice job reg, works really well, how do like those motors vs servos?

bigpipespete 12-07-2014 10:40 PM

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Thats impressive Reg , looks to push that wet dirt with ease.

Firgelli Technologies 12-09-2014 01:04 PM

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Nice job Reg! Looks great all painted.

RCP57 12-09-2014 08:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 119885)
Nice job reg, works really well, how do like those motors vs servos?

Thanks Stuart. Well I have busted both so that's not good but I think I have things sorted now. The converted servos are easier to mount in the machine but require more fiddling to attach the sprocket. I think the gear motors are smoother in operation but are more difficult to fit into the machine because of their width. I have one more experiment to try with dozer #3 but both 1 & 2 seem to be working OK.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigpipespete (Post 119895)
Thats impressive Reg , looks to push that wet dirt with ease.

Thanks Mike. Yes I think it pushed a respectable amount for a small machine.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firgelli Technologies (Post 119956)
Nice job Reg! Looks great all painted.

Thanks Ian!

Today's update. I added the cutting edge to the blade and started work on the open D6H style cab. I have raised the height and added width to the cab in an attempt to make it more to scale for a D6. I still have a bit more to sort out and then I will mount some grab handles and such.

Keith, I know you were totally in love with the stock exhaust pipe but I had to change it...Sorry:rolleyes:

http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1cf11bfb.jpg
http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/...ps9fbc4e95.jpg
http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6fded9f0.jpg
http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1286bc45.jpg
http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/...psb8bfb3eb.jpg
http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6edd3213.jpg

Thanks for looking!

Nhrafan 12-09-2014 10:09 PM

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:jaw::jaw::jaw::jaw::jaw::jaw::jaw::jaw::bounce::b ounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce: WOW !!!!!!! Reg that looks awesome !!!!! Oh yea your more than welcome to the other exhaust stack ;). Thanks man looks GREAT !!!!

RCP57 12-11-2014 09:46 AM

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I finished up the cab details yesterday on the D6H. I think it is ready to have the remaining bare parts painted.

http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/...psf070fb63.jpg
http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/...psef04e9fb.jpg
http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/...ps08eebeb3.jpg
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http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/...psd3629d21.jpg

Bo Wallen 12-11-2014 10:11 AM

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Thats impressive Reg, The Winner is D6H i think ;o) a must have.......
can i have one please ?!

RCP57 12-11-2014 10:19 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo Wallen (Post 120006)
Thats impressive Reg, The Winner is D6H i think ;o) a must have.......
can i have one please ?!

Thanks, I like it too and will probably convert the cab on mine to something similar.

Yes you can have one! I have built all the parts for dozer #3. I am just waiting for motors and someone to step up with some $$$$.:D

Bo Wallen 12-11-2014 12:19 PM

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How big step do i need to make with some $$$$ ? :bounce: Sir.

bigpipespete 12-11-2014 12:47 PM

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Your killin me Reg ,
ive yet to get an ESC for the dumptruck : ) Your build keeps getting better , love it !

RCP57 12-11-2014 01:29 PM

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Depending how they are outfitted with aluminum parts, I'm looking to get $1300-$1500 Canadian for them. Either way that would include everything short of a battery and TX/RX. Actually if an Orange RX receiver is compatible with the customers TX, I would include that too. I guess I could sell them with the TX/RX but it would obviously cost more.

If we start talking about these kind of details on the open forum, maybe this should be moved to my vendors section? If any mods see fit to do so please go ahead!

Reg

Exclusive RC 12-11-2014 01:52 PM

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cant wait to outfit that bad boy with a beautiful interior :bounce:

Bo Wallen 12-11-2014 01:57 PM

Re: 4 Hour Bruder Dozer
 
Sounds Great Reg.
I will send you a pm. after the weekend when i return from work tour.
Bo

RCP57 12-11-2014 02:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Exclusive RC (Post 120014)
cant wait to outfit that bad boy with a beautiful interior :bounce:

Yeah Brian! It needs a scaled up seat and some other details. You are just the right man for the job! It will definitely be the sweetest Bruder conversion out there(my biased opinion:D). You may need to make more than one set...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo Wallen (Post 120015)
Sounds Great Reg.
I will send you a pm. after the weekend when i return from work tour.
Bo

Sounds good Bo. I am still waiting on some parts for #3. #2 needs to go before #3 gets it's electronics.lol Gear motors for it should be here soon though. Santa has them on early delivery from China:lol:.

Bo Wallen 12-11-2014 03:18 PM

Re: 4 Hour Bruder Dozer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Exclusive RC (Post 120014)
cant wait to outfit that bad boy with a beautiful interior :bounce:

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCP57 (Post 120016)
Yeah Brian! It needs a scaled up seat and some other details. You are just the right man for the job! It will definitely be the sweetest Bruder conversion out there(my biased opinion:D). You may need to make more than one set...



Sounds good Bo. I am still waiting on some parts for #3. #2 needs to go before #3 gets it's electronics.lol Gear motors for it should be here soon though. Santa has them on early delivery from China:lol:.

Brian might outfit many D6H is my thinking Good idea Brian
Yea let,s hope Chinese Santa get here soon ;o))

RCP57 12-14-2014 04:27 PM

Re: 4 Hour Bruder Dozer
 
No sign of the Chinese Santa yet but this one is nearing completion.

I just assembled it this morning so I need to go over it and brush paint a few nuts and bolts. I also made a drawbar for it but the paint needs another day to dry before I install it. I think it turned out pretty good although I wish I was a better painter.

http://youtu.be/b94Ve-jpaQc The light is not the best in this vid so the color doesn't show up very well.

These pictures do it more justice!

http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/...ps7e3be1c9.jpg
http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/...ps0f1a7b04.jpg
http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5f843618.jpg
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http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8a4cde39.jpg
http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/...psbf99b22b.jpg

Thanks for looking!

TRUCKMAKER 12-14-2014 05:05 PM

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I've been following along Reg and this conversion turned out incredible!

JohnStilwell 12-14-2014 05:07 PM

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Another AWESOME build Reg!

:cool: You are "Scale Art of Canada" :cool:

Can't wait to see the D11 :rolleyes:

John

Cooper 12-14-2014 05:37 PM

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Dang reg!! For a four hour conversion you have out done yourself:). Looks awesome!! I wish Santa would make a trip to Vancouver island and pick me up one of them, but he may be overweight with my bag of coal!!!! This has turned out incredible. And the videos look smooth and pretty powerful. I think you put all the right parts in all the right places. Good job man!!

Mikem 12-14-2014 05:46 PM

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I want to know how they slow down time on the island because if that is 4 hours that would be 3 weeks for me on the mainland ! Mike

Nhrafan 12-14-2014 05:46 PM

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:jaw: It's incredible Reg !!!!! I absolutely love it !!!!!! Can't wait to get this baby home :bounce:


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