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TRUCKMAKER 07-08-2016 07:20 PM

Re: Hayes HD Dump Truck - Take II
 
Reg your truck and parts are looking great as always! Do you form your own small brass angle or do you have a source to buy it from?

RCP57 07-08-2016 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Northern Farmer (Post 146024)
Man all these details are killing it! The tanks and strap brackets look bloody great!

Thank you sir!

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Originally Posted by Doggy (Post 146029)
Brass is really great material to do small details. And when you have a killer alu body like this, you cant result with less than a masterpiece!

If you hit you bumper to a rock, will it bend like the real one? That was my idea, to press form alu panels over milled body to get thin alu panels that will be damaged like the real thing when driving. It was more od 1/10 trail hilux idea, than 1/14, but I think it would be cool.

I don't think this bumper will dent easily. It's 063 5052 so it's strong.lol I have thought about building a dump bed for myself that is soft though.

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Originally Posted by TRUCKMAKER (Post 146060)
Reg your truck and parts are looking great as always! Do you form your own small brass angle or do you have a source to buy it from?

Thanks! Angle is home brew. I just sheared and bent it. Not as crisp of an edge as I would like but it will do. Like I said before, I've never worked with brass sheet before. So far it seems pretty good. When I made other parts out of copper sheet it was more difficult. The brass shears and bends and solders nicely. It also takes more heat than the copper before it goes soft. Not too many more parts will be brass on this but there might be the odd thing. Mostly aluminum from here on out.

tc1cat 07-08-2016 09:22 PM

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Reg, Your brass work is outstanding. Not getting as crisp of an edge actually looks better than if you had used boughten angle. Boughten angle actually has too sharp of an edge. Works great for making frames but does not look as good as yours for making bracing. Now I have to learn your techniques for aluminum forming.

Any of your handmade vehicles put most of us in a second class when it comes to accuracy and realism. I look forward to seeing any of your builds.

RCP57 07-11-2016 10:57 PM

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Thanks very much Lynn. I have a lot to learn with all of this but the brass seems fairly forgiving compared to working with aluminum all of the time. I think I would benefit from having a MAP gas torch so that I could heat things up quicker on larger objects? The torches I have seem to work well on most things though. I am enjoying working with the brass. I wish I had used some of it on my big KW but I also didn't have a lot of the tools that I have now back then. I guess that's called progress...

OK, so a few days have gone by and I've been working on this pretty much steady. When I'm not working on it, I'm thinking about it to the point where I'm losing sleep again. Oh well, I guess it's good to be excited about your work.lol

Anyway, it may not seem like I've accomplished much but a lot of the stuff has been fiddly and time consuming. I made a plate for under the hood and mounted the electronics, planned out where the wiring would go, took the plate out, drilled holes, routed wires, ect. I also made the air tanks although only one is mounted right now because I'm a bonehead and didn't take pictures of the brackets holding the others in place on the 1:1 truck. There are a few other details as well but no point in rambling on. I got started on the dump box today so I feel like I've seen the top of the mountain and have started down the other side! This box is going to be a challenge but they all are in same way or another...lol

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RCP57 07-20-2016 11:13 PM

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I beam, I beam, I beam!lol A ton of work has gone into this truck but it is getting there!

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TheBennyB 07-20-2016 11:58 PM

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Just stunning! Almost a shame for this sucker to get any paint.

Doggy 07-21-2016 03:31 AM

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Beams look superdupermegacool!

TRUCKMAKER 07-21-2016 07:28 AM

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Outstanding Reg. Not enough words! It would be a hard one to paint it looks so good.

RCP57 07-21-2016 09:29 AM

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Thanks guys. Yes, I am very nervous about painting it. Painting is not my forte so until it's done I will be stressing. I'm hoping to get the truck completed soon so that it gets painted while it's still summer and warm out. The plan is to have the box powder coated(silver) and the rest will be yellow except for a little green on the hood top. At least these trucks had pretty simple paint jobs! I think there is at least 1-2 weeks worth of work left to do on her yet. I will see what I can get done in the next day or two and then it has to go back on the shelf while I work on a job that showed up yesterday.:( for the HD but :)for the other job.

tc1cat 07-21-2016 10:14 AM

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Reg,

What do you use for a primer on the aluminum? This has always been a sticking point with me. Either use no primer and hope or make a mess trying different paints!!

RCP57 07-21-2016 11:44 AM

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I usually only prime stuff that needs some light bodywork. I use regular spray paint most of the time so it sprays on thick. Too many coats add up and I lose details. My Hayes is painted with Valspar paint and the box still hasn't worn thru from hauling gravel. The KW is done with Plastikote. Both seem to spray and stick well. I was told they are both made by the same manufacturer but I can't say for sure.

FabOne 07-21-2016 11:46 AM

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Reg-

Your attention to detail blows me away! Keep us posted!

-Terry

RCP57 07-23-2016 08:59 PM

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Thanks Terry!

Another update. These dummy hydraulic cylinders are giving me fits! I've said a lot of bad words and that's not like me at all..:rolleyes:

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Northern Farmer 07-23-2016 09:25 PM

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:eek: :eek: Bonerific!

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RCP57 07-23-2016 09:44 PM

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BAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!

TRUCKMAKER 07-23-2016 10:28 PM

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Looks great Reg! And yeah what he said ^^^^^. Or did! :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::p

Kaan 07-23-2016 11:07 PM

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Wow, looks awesome

bigford 07-24-2016 12:21 AM

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if you ask rw nicely he will make them cylinders work

Lil Giants 07-25-2016 11:53 PM

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Did a lot of chin wagging while visiting your shop last week... in disbelief now that I didn't ask to see you strike a few arcs to see your magic happen in person... musta got heat stroke on Saturday... :confused: :eek: :thinking:

Great work, as always :cool:

RCP57 07-26-2016 08:45 AM

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Thanks guys. Yes, we had a great BS Joe! It was good to finally meet you in person and shoot the breeze over the weekend. I don't think there is much magic in my welding ability though:confused:. The magic is in the grinding filing and sanding afterward!:rolleyes:

Cooper 07-26-2016 10:45 AM

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Grinding, sanding,,,,, yeah all that fun stuff,,!!! I equate it to drywall, every time on is like the last coat!!! But if looking at my work I don't practice what I preach. Lol!!! I got all excited once I saw that telescopic cylinder!!! I think you should make that a real one, then I can copy it. !!!! Lol!!! Looks really good reg!!! Well back to drywall and replacing carpet!!

RCP57 09-04-2016 11:25 PM

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Lou and I attended a show in Port Alberni BC yesterday. It was nice to catch up with Lou again as well as a few of my wife and I's friends from town there. We managed to snap a few pics of the baby Hayes on big brothers fender...

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makcc 10-07-2016 08:40 AM

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Hello,
Very very good model.
How you made leaf springs for this model. Especially for the front axle.

RCP57 10-07-2016 10:31 AM

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The springs are made using old lawn rakes. The fingers on the rakes are slightly wider than a stock Tamiya spring but work really well for 1/14 scale. I have to heat the ends to roll eyes into them but it's not too bad if you build a jig.

Reg

DADSGARAGE 11-30-2016 12:28 AM

Re: Hayes HD Dump Truck - Take II
 
Just took another look at this build....and have to say you have done an outstanding job, nice very nice!!!

Any plans or time for another 1/10 scale build in the near future??

RCP57 11-30-2016 11:25 AM

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Thanks KP. At this point I have no plans to build anything for myself in any scale. I would like to build a dozer in 1/10 but that seems less and less likely all of the time. When RCP's is busy I am basically on the computer answering messages or in the shop from the time I get up until the time I go to bed. When it's not busy I either don't have the extra money for a personal project or I honestly just want to GTFO of the shop and do something outside.lol Maybe sometime in the future things will change but for now that's reality. It isn't so bad building stuff for other people and having it go away. I get my build fix and don't have to store the finished product!

D8R 12-01-2016 06:57 AM

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Those clamps, are they used when welding? Where can I find those, never seen something like that before.
Dan

RCP57 12-01-2016 08:36 AM

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Yes Dan, they are called Cleco clamps. They work well and are fairly cheap. Just don't get them too hot.

RCP57 03-25-2017 10:58 AM

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I've had this one on the bench over the last few days as I try to get a little progress made on several different projects. A few weekends ago I spent a day and a half making a scissor lift for the bed using a P16 actuator. It worked OK up to about 8# but struggled to do more so I tossed it aside. I have been trying to avoid using a screwdrive in this thing but I finally gave in and went with what I know. Unlike any other I've built over the last 3+ years, this one is in the truck chassis. It has roughly 18# of lead acid batteries in the back and dumps it with ease. I wanted to keep the dummy lift cylinders and prop rod as symmetrical as possible when the bed was up in an effort to draw less attention to the prop rod itself. Some careful "eyeball" measuring of the prop rod length took care of that.lol The truck will be yellow so I'll have to decide what color looks the least noticeable on the prop rod(yellow or black). I'm happy to have this step done as it was the last major hurdle to get over. I will wire up and mount some limit switches, then I can get on with the final details and have this ready for paint when the weather warms up!

Dump test video... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvS2CI2OUDM

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Reg

RCP57 08-06-2017 09:59 AM

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It's been a few months again but it's time to finish this up so I've been putting in some hours over the last few days. Most of the major building was finished when I last left off but there were a lot of details to add. I have a lot to do yet but the last three days have been productive for making tiny "one off" parts.

I started out by making some roof lights. I needed Arrow 39's for this truck and as far as I know they are not available so some hand filing was needed after some basic machining... I also turned a horn in the lathe while I was at it.

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Next up was to cut the amber plexi for the side makers and machine a tow pin for the front bumper...

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Added mirrors and trimmed the exhaust tip.

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Then I made up a shovel and mounted it to the bed along with the axe I made months ago.

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Finally I moved to the rear where I added a tow pin, brake booster pods and a pair of Russ's tail light bezels. Oh, and mudflaps too!

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There are still a few little things to do but I hope to have it ready for paint this coming week...

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egronvold 08-06-2017 01:25 PM

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A million-dollar-build :D

RCP57 08-06-2017 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by egronvold (Post 157152)
A million-dollar-build :D

Haha, thanks! Realistically it would be pricey one for sure. Not sure about a million $$ but $10000 wouldn't be out of the question for the time and money invested. I haven't touched it yet today but I put over 25hrs in it again just in the last 3 days. I would estimate that 400+hrs at this point would not be a stretch plus the materials cost.

Northern Farmer 08-06-2017 10:25 PM

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Work of art on wheels :cool:

RCP57 08-13-2017 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Northern Farmer (Post 157181)
Work of art on wheels :cool:

Thanks Brandon! On Friday I was starting on the interior and decided the dash needed something. I had a flashback to a little part I had been hoarding since I was a kid so I dug it out and got to work...

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Reg

skeeter 08-13-2017 03:48 PM

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Reg, are them dash fans still available? If so, where to buy it from?

RCP57 08-13-2017 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by skeeter (Post 157317)
Reg, are them dash fans still available? If so, where to buy it from?

I honestly don't remember where the "blades" came from but I had it stashed away in a margarine container for about 30 years. The rest of it was whipped up in about an hour and a half by yours truly.

skeeter 08-13-2017 10:04 PM

Re: Hayes HD Dump Truck - Take II
 
It looks AWESOME! One similar to it would look good in logging truck I'll be building this winter. If you find em, or hear of anyone that's selling 'em, PLEASE let me know

RCP57 08-13-2017 10:09 PM

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If you can make the motor, mount and cage, I'm sure you could also make the blades. I just used this plastic thing because I had it. An added bonus of using it was that I could justify my hoarding to my wife...😎

RCP57 08-13-2017 11:18 PM

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I decided I should do a dirt test before finishing up the fab and paint.

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skeeter 08-14-2017 01:17 AM

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LOL! :) I don't have that problem, No wife, NO kids, NO worries.


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