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TheMachinist 11-20-2010 10:24 AM

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Good Grief! What a masterpiece. I work in a machine shop and have done some pretty small pieces but this machine in the most detailed and intricate I have ever seen.
You are a true craftsman.

Jordy

9W Monighan 11-20-2010 10:18 PM

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Thanks Jordy.
Nathen, I don't think I'll need locktite Some of the holes are threaded then I'll be running a nut on them too where needed. But the only problem with 0-80 small pattern nuts is they're 1/8'' hex and the bolt is 3/32''hex and you have to keep this in mind because of wrench clearance. In one of my pictures you can see my shop made socket wrenches, the Wiha's are too thick,I turned down a socket head screw to very thin wall to be able to tighten bolts. I even design this in on the CAD so it can be assembled.And if all else fails I'm using socket head bolts,much more esier to install:D I'm trying to keep very close tolerances on my hole sizes so there won't be much movement with the bolts.
"It's supposed to line up":rolleyes:
2mm screws aprox .078'', aren't they about the size of #1-72? I have some 1-72's installed and they're much more esier to tap than 0-80's

dirtpusher9 11-24-2010 06:42 PM

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Well, where's the progress pics at Steve, I can't wait to see the boom on it?

9W Monighan 11-24-2010 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dirtpusher9 (Post 11910)
Well, where's the progress pics at Steve, I can't wait to see the boom on it?

Ah well---- I haven't done anything this week because I had to make sure everybody has work next week so we can go to deer camp. You know,it's a big deal here in PA. the first day of buck.:D At least for us hunters.
I need no distraction to be able to work on that boom. Looking at the date, I may have the first section pretty much done for Cabin Fever. I might be able to just set it on the temporary boom for the heck of it.

9W Monighan 12-05-2010 08:29 PM

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I spent some spare time this week between deer hunting and got this cross section brace complete less solder. It's pretty hard to put those tiny rivets in. Mashing them is easy once everything is lined up. I'll put the remainder in after I'm sure everything is squared up correctly.
http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/2871/10036010.jpg

Corner detail:
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/5599/1003603.jpg

SmallHaul 12-05-2010 08:56 PM

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The corners look perfect Steve, nice work.

pugs 12-05-2010 11:24 PM

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Very nice work, can't wait to see the finished boom.

td9clyde 12-06-2010 08:37 AM

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yea this is one awsome build the thing is can you actually fit the whole thing in one pic and still see the details??lol nice work very detailed

tc1cat 12-06-2010 08:41 AM

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Very slick build. Hope to see it in Jan!!!!

9W Monighan 12-06-2010 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by td9clyde (Post 12767)
yea this is one awsome build the thing is can you actually fit the whole thing in one pic and still see the details??lol nice work very detailed


Henry,I guess you need to see in person. :D Please refer to my new post in the general discussion topics. Maybe this would cure some of my dilemma:rolleyes: Wide angle lens:confused:
Thanks again you guys, That one section pictured took me about 10hrs of fooling around I'm trying to get into full gear on this boom in the next month but doubt I can finish by Jan 14th don't want to go too fast and screw up.

modelman 12-06-2010 10:28 AM

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Very nice work steve-you must have good eyesight. That is really small. I am going on 10 years with bad vision and I can't begin to tell you how frustrating it is.:mad:

9W Monighan 12-06-2010 09:51 PM

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Tom, The eye sight is really bad close up but I had no problem spotting deer 800yds away this week:D
I got this section finally soldered together this evening just needs some cleanup and a tiny amount of filing for fit.

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/2949/1003613tt.jpg

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/2718/1003614j.jpg

Jared 12-06-2010 10:55 PM

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Wow, just beautiful! And I was grumbling because I took a couple weeks of here-and-there dinking around on my simple little boom. I've watched your videos but seeing how it goes together here gives one a much better appreciation for it all. This forum doesn't have the jaw-dropping smiley but if it did I would use it. I will be watching.

Espeefan 12-07-2010 02:38 AM

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Wow. I'm not sure what to say, that hasn't already been said, but this project just keeps getting better and better! It is definitely a masterpiece.

modelman 12-07-2010 10:17 AM

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Looks perfect to me steve! " a deere at 800 yds". I couldn't see an ELEPHANT at 800 yds if it were painted BRIGHT ORANGE

lorenzo 12-07-2010 11:29 AM

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Wow. In the time where I wasn't here you've done a really fine work. I would like to look over your shoulders to learn from you. But that's more than 800yds away.

9W Monighan 12-07-2010 12:02 PM

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Glad to hear from you again Lorenzo.

lorenzo 12-07-2010 12:12 PM

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Seems I'm getting more time next time :). More time for the hobby again.

9W Monighan 12-12-2010 12:07 PM

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Well now that deer season is over for us it's time to get at this boom more. I should have the rest of these tubes cut and notched today and maybe start soldering some more.

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/3038/1003616q.jpg

Closeup of how the tubes come together. The .040'' plate is notched into the 1/4'' tube then the 3/16'' ones are notched. This is becoming stronger and stronger all the time,the solder shouldn't be stressed as much with this notching.
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2896/1003615.jpg

Espeefan 12-12-2010 01:37 PM

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After replying to your thread three times, I feel like a broken record, so I'll just sit back and watch this masterpiece come together! :D

D8R 12-12-2010 03:03 PM

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Now it´s clear why you had to spend a lot of money on tubing. Very nice piece of work, guess I have to visit you next time in us to get a crash corse in brazing!
Do you have drawing for this or did you have to climb the mast to get all meassurments needed?
Dan

lorenzo 12-12-2010 03:57 PM

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Interesting way of linking all the parts by notching and soldering. I'll keep that in mind :).

9W Monighan 12-12-2010 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by D8R (Post 13210)
Now it´s clear why you had to spend a lot of money on tubing. Very nice piece of work, guess I have to visit you next time in us to get a crash corse in brazing!
Do you have drawing for this or did you have to climb the mast to get all meassurments needed?
Dan

I could have measured a real boom of a 9W last year but couldn't get out to do it while it was on the ground being painted. But,
I have some drawings provided by Walter Bennett of Scranton,PA. He built a 3/8th'' scale 10W Dragline between 1967-1980 and has several photos and measurements he took back then. In his collection he had a set of photos and drawings dated:March 1969 that were of a 9W boom that he made by mistake thinking it was the same as his 10W. They are fairly complete but I still had to design it by referring to his photos and drawing and use my imagination alot. I have some drawings of my own of the point and I'll get to that I hope this winter.

Lorenzo,
The notching is exactly as the real machine and all the pieces are sized almost exactly as the real machine.

lorenzo 12-13-2010 01:44 AM

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Do you use an apaerature to hold all pieces in position while soldering or is the tension of the parts doing a good job?

9W Monighan 12-13-2010 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by lorenzo (Post 13258)
Do you use an apaerature to hold all pieces in position while soldering or is the tension of the parts doing a good job?

Look at one of the earlier posts and there's a fixture I made to hold the sides together while soldering the lattice. The only problem was it was too big and sucked all the heat out of the brass too fast making it difficult to get the heat right for solder flow. I also made a rectangle to hold the splice section. I'm going to make up a fixture to hold the width correctly while soldering the tubing on the top and bottom. Some pieces will just hold themselves together while soldering.

lorenzo 12-13-2010 12:06 PM

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Now you're talking about I remember (I'm getting old ;)). Maybe you coud use a cooking plate to pre heat the fixture and the brass parts.

9W Monighan 12-14-2010 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by lorenzo (Post 13278)
Now you're talking about I remember (I'm getting old ;)). Maybe you coud use a cooking plate to pre heat the fixture and the brass parts.

I do take the torch and heat the 25.4mm square bars to get them warm but not really hot.

lorenzo 12-14-2010 01:32 PM

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That's a way too :).

9W Monighan 12-17-2010 07:22 PM

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Smallhaul Scott, I finally pulled the drag out of the crate after 4 months this evening and hooked up my new Spektrum DX7. It seemed to work flawlessly on the swing and drag. I didn't put the temporary boom on yet to see the real pain," The Hoist Function". I'm sure it'll work fine too. I was fooling around with the dual rate and figured out how that works. That will come in handy for a beginner or possibly aid in truck loading. Another would be,if there's enough torque on that low of a setting, "Walking"
I am getting ready for some soldering work this weekend and hopefully have the first boom section done.

td9clyde 12-17-2010 07:56 PM

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can't wait for more pics i don't know how all you guys can build these cranes i guess i don't have that good of paitents everything is so intricut and detailed nice work keep up the great work

SmallHaul 12-17-2010 09:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 9W Monighan (Post 13524)
Smallhaul Scott, I finally pulled the drag out of the crate after 4 months this evening and hooked up my new Spektrum DX7. It seemed to work flawlessly on the swing and drag. I didn't put the temporary boom on yet to see the real pain," The Hoist Function". I'm sure it'll work fine too. I was fooling around with the dual rate and figured out how that works. That will come in handy for a beginner or possibly aid in truck loading. Another would be,if there's enough torque on that low of a setting, "Walking"
I am getting ready for some soldering work this weekend and hopefully have the first boom section done.

That is great Steve. You can also try about 30 positive expo on the swing too make that smooth too. 2.4ghz is awesome, you can almost enclose it in metal and it won't glitch or loose signal.

9W Monighan 12-20-2010 08:54 AM

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Lots of progress this weekend. Almost all of the tubing is soldered together on the first section but ran out of time. I can't wait to be able to pick it up from the jig and hold it without worrying about it falling apart in my hands:D
I can't take any pictures yet because my camera is not working properly. I'm in the process of buying a new one now.:confused:
I'm thinking about a: Nikon S8100

SonoranWraith 12-20-2010 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by 9W Monighan (Post 13726)
I'm thinking about a: Nikon S8100

Looking forward to the soldered piece/work of art when you get the pics. My wife wants this camera. I guess we'll see your pics for evaluation. ;)

9W Monighan 12-21-2010 10:14 AM

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Well, I got all the tubes fitted and some soldered but will finish this evening. I went out and got my new camera and I'm trying to get used to all the new gadgets it has.I need to get it set correctly though. Here are some pictures of the boom in it's jig to hold the taper correctly.
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/9563/dscn0037i.jpg

http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/7489/dscn0036g.jpg

Corner all soldered
http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/8788/dscn0038t.jpg

Detail of how the tubes join ready to be soldered
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/6656/dscn0035zw.jpg

modelman 12-21-2010 01:14 PM

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Looking really good steve! Are you making the boom so it can be partially dis-assembled?

Stuff 12-21-2010 03:10 PM

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hard to believe it is 1:16 yet so large!! very nice job!

td9clyde 12-21-2010 06:26 PM

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wow blink blink can't beleive my eyes that thing is huge very nice work

9W Monighan 12-21-2010 09:13 PM

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Thanks everybody. Tom, I'm making as close to real as possible and it will come apart. Maybe I'll need to haul it on a scale lowboy:D.
Well now I've reached another mile stone. The bottom section is now complete out side of walkway and light brackets of course. When I took it out of the jig I was totally impressed how strong this thing is! I just had to mount it on the machine to see how it looks, and Henry can now see how big this is getting.
Please bear with me as I haven't got the new camera figured out yet.:confused:
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/9937/dscn0043qv.jpg

First time on!
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/6776/dscn0045s.jpg
http://img816.imageshack.us/img816/7594/dscn0048v.jpg

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/8535/dscn0050f.jpg

td9clyde 12-21-2010 09:33 PM

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wow that crane is huge !!!!!!!!! very percision and precice work awsome job keep it up and keep the pics goin nice work

td9clyde 12-21-2010 09:35 PM

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whoow what is that lil cat in the shelf??


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