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Hemi1966 07-16-2011 04:50 AM

RC4WD Excavator
 
Have you guys seen this: http://store.rc4wd.com/112-Scale-Ear...TR_p_1587.html

doodlebug 07-16-2011 07:50 AM

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So the rumor is finaly true! Next question? how many pump's do they have in stock & how much? Just had to stir the pot on this one, I know a few of you are looking for pump's. Later, Neil#2 aka doodlebug.

9W Monighan 07-16-2011 08:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by doodlebug (Post 31446)
So the rumor is finaly true! Next question? how many pump's do they have in stock & how much? Just had to stir the pot on this one, I know a few of you are looking for pump's. Later, Neil#2 aka doodlebug.

I'll second that.

SmallHaul 07-16-2011 09:06 AM

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Wow, $2,700 shipped to your door with a 9 channel 2.4ghz radio. If it turns out to be a good unit that is a great price.

mog 07-16-2011 09:42 AM

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ya would love to see it working and the pice is awsome. but is it 1/12 or 1/14 it said both on the page it's not a big deal. wondering do you think we could get a kit form for us that like to bild. with some detailing will be a very sharp unit.

Trucker47 07-16-2011 02:19 PM

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I don't know how many parts they will stock as they do not make it, they are just selling it on behalf of another company who also makes the lowboy trailer. you can see this on the part number aas it starts with a V which i believe stands for vendor but if they do sell pumps and such it will be interesting to see how much they cost :D

Chris

doodlebug 07-16-2011 10:06 PM

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Good point Chris, we'll have to wait and see!
Later, Neil#2 aka doodlebug.

Papy 07-17-2011 04:30 AM

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1/12.....1/14 ? that is the question......:p

I'd say the steel molded tracks would be my choice as spare parts !

Brian in PA 07-17-2011 08:35 AM

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that is pretty sweet for the money!

Brian

elliot330 07-17-2011 03:01 PM

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its 1/12

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...=STRK:MEWAX:IT


short video of it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2wff...=LLNU1xxM62GDo

Straywolf 07-17-2011 08:51 PM

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So cool, maybe now i can save up enough to finally get one:D i know the price with shipping fits my budget:D We shall see......

Papy 07-18-2011 04:53 AM

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Have you noticed the hyd. pressure and digging force changed on the specs list of the RC4WD page :confused:

Pressure is now said to be set at 20 bars instead of the previous 12 ;)

(and 8.5 MPa on the ebay description :eek: if not a mistake, probably an ultimate test value)

muskater 07-18-2011 01:15 PM

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Anyone know who manufactures it?

SmallHaul 07-18-2011 04:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muskater (Post 31614)
Anyone know who manufactures it?

Maybe Hong Kong, that is where the ebay ones are located and that would explain the great price.

calm n sedated 07-18-2011 05:42 PM

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I've gone for a long time and things have changed but the worst idea i've heard is "carbon steal" grouser pads! I don't mean to slam RC4WD but carbon steel shows their lack the experience for this type of machine, better be ready to handle many complaints. The german companies have been doing this for decades and it's through those years that they have obtained a lot of R&D. With the great 30 day warranty.....I'm even more sceptical.

fhhhstix 07-18-2011 05:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by calm n sedated (Post 31632)
I've gone for a long time and things have changed but the worst idea i've heard is "carbon steal" grouser pads! I don't mean to slam RC4WD but carbon steel shows their lack the experience for this type of machine, better be ready to handle many complaints. The german companies have been doing this for decades and it's through those years that they have obtained a lot of R&D. With the great 30 day warranty.....I'm even more sceptical.

I am not real sure why you would think carbon steel is a bad idea?:confused:
Through heat treating carbon steel can become much stronger and durable than normal steel. Carbon steel is also a term used to describe steel that is not stainless.

Travis

calm n sedated 07-18-2011 11:03 PM

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RUST!!! Carbon steel will rust and corrode so fast you can watch the stains develope on the rest of your excavator and your wife will love the carpet stains too. Then after it rusts, try wrenching on rusted M2 screws. A big headache will soon ensue, hence; the gauser pads from Germany are either stainless steel $$$$, aluminum or brass.

Lil Giants 07-19-2011 01:01 AM

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Stahl's tracks are stamped steel. I don't paint my tracks, I use a spray on graphite, coat all sides of the links & pads. That graphite sticks to the steel better than paint & is very lubricating too.

It seems odd to me that no one is more forth coming as to who actually makes this model or show what the inner workings look like. :confused:

Comparing the dimensions on RC4WD's site to Vario's JD450 machine, this excavator is just a bit smaller in stature. If the JD450 (12th scale) is considered to be a 40tonne machine, then this one might be comparable to a 30tonne.

doodlebug 07-19-2011 06:25 AM

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Good point, Joe.
Later, Neil#2 aka doodlebug.

trucker n 07-19-2011 07:45 AM

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hey joe the ones for sale on ebay show the inner workings im interested in one if it has the power they say it does:D

calm n sedated 07-19-2011 03:06 PM

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Joe, my stahl pads are all aluminum? Are your stahl pads older than 2004? My upgraded dozer pads are stainless (custom made) and the scaleart pads are brass.

rockNmayhem 07-19-2011 07:36 PM

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NEW PICS ARE UP ON THE WEBSITE!!! They are showing some better pics inside and out I just looked it up again. Looking good.

~Tyler~

fhhhstix 07-19-2011 07:57 PM

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I guess with a little preventive maintenance such as anti seize on the link pins and the pads are powder coated like the rest of the machine I don't see steal tracks as being an issue. Plus this is only $2400 unlike the expensive Vario or the $7000 Wedico some things have to be sacrificed for the price so more people who want to get into the construction equipment can afford it. I am sure this will start an argument just like Wedico verses Tamiya but you buy what is in your budget and who knows this may be a real nice and reliable model.

Travis

SmallHaul 07-19-2011 07:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rockNmayhem (Post 31724)
NEW PICS ARE UP ON THE WEBSITE!!! They are showing some better pics inside and out I just looked it up again. Looking good.

~Tyler~

I am impressed with the mechanical build quality and the way the undercarriage and drive is made. It will be interesting to see how the pump, cylinders and spool valves hold up after 10 or 20 hours of run time.

I would still want to see good clear videos of it digging, driving & rotating before I pulled the trigger on one though.

trucker n 07-19-2011 08:10 PM

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i talked to racer for life on scale who is with rc4wd to get the pics that are posted and he told me they are making a video as i told him people wont buy unless they can see what it will do and he told me that it will do what it is spec ed to do and is made in china

calm n sedated 07-20-2011 04:21 PM

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$2400 is dirt cheap. This is especially enticing since almost all of the models come out of German and with the USD to euro exchange rate being so bad...very intersting. Now I say this a grain of salt, since most of us understand what goes into creating a model like this...machining set up, time, unique parts, facillity ect. but this price is crazy low! With this knowledge, I'm skeptical about the quality, price and China production. I know not everything produced in China is low quality and giving them the benefit of the doubt there is still the aspect of getting replacement parts. As we all know, if you use it....you'll be wrenching!!! If they can't produce the extra parts, RC4WD will have a big headache. Hopefully someone will be the guinea pig and the results will be favorable. I'm all in for a $2400 excavator as long as it does'nt cost me $2400 in extra parts!

Lil Giants 07-20-2011 04:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by calm n sedated (Post 31703)
Joe, my stahl pads are all aluminum? Are your stahl pads older than 2004? My upgraded dozer pads are stainless (custom made) and the scaleart pads are brass.

Your cleats are aluminum, but the pad & link they're bolted to are steel. Every Stahl tracked model I've gotten up until 09 has been steel links & pads.

China has a booming economy, but have their labor rates risen much? A german's actual basic living cost is likely still 10 to 20 times that of a chinese.

Straywolf 07-20-2011 05:54 PM

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I would love to see a new video with sound of this excavator working, the other really didn't do it justice.

So has anyone decided to order one and test it out?

Straywolf 07-20-2011 06:57 PM

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Well they seem to be out of stock on website, but i figured up what i would have to save for this with shipping it would be $2,729.99 which is still not a bad price.

As for the body i was already eyeing my Burder Exc and was wondering if i could use it to skin it over this one.

trucker n 07-20-2011 08:15 PM

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they are out of stock right now 3 to4 weeks before they have more in:D

Papy 07-21-2011 01:39 AM

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....and the extra shipping charge jumped from 300 to 400$.....:rolleyes:



Quote:

Originally Posted by Breaker 1-9 (Post 31780)
.....the scale seems to be changing a bit from 14th scale to 12th scale. However from that choppy youtube clip which looks like they used a cell-phone to snap, it seems the size of the machine is close or near the same size of a Bruder Excavator. I am judging this based on looking at the Tamiya truck and the machine being pulled along...

As far as I know, Fumotec uses the same basic machine to produce it's 1/12-50 to & 1/14.5-80 to models....just a different body fitted. It will probably be rather easy to do the same trick and get a 45/50 to-1/14.5 from what appears to be a 25/30 to-1/12

Papy 07-21-2011 03:33 AM

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The 250 mm width would represent 3.6 meters (12 ft) in 1:1 scale. Far enough for a 50 to excavator.

But as there is no indication on the track length, you may be right about this point....wait and see :confused:

JensR 07-22-2011 06:40 PM

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The transmitter is a variant of the Turnigy 9x, the lesser version one.
This is not a 9-channel radio. It has 7 proportional channels and 1 on-off channel.
The better version 2 costs about 60 USD plus shipping on Hobbyking.
The RC4WD variant has been modified with these two extensions on what normally are turning-knobs to control the two track drives.

Straywolf 07-23-2011 12:02 PM

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I was looking at the link where they have it for sale and i noticed they now have a picture of the controller it comes with. It looks pretty nice to me.

Papy 07-23-2011 12:33 PM

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Too bad they did not set the operating levers in the standard configuration, but it's probably easy to fix ;)
However, these levers they use for the tracks seem to me an interesting solution. Beeing able to crawl and use the equipment at the same time is really a good point :)

kyleandtavion 07-24-2011 11:39 PM

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Is there a video of this excavator. Im thinking of making this my first construction purchase but before spending that amount I would like to see it run

YoungGunz 07-26-2011 12:17 AM

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I would love to get my hands on one of these but im definitely going to wait to see how they run before i fork over almost 3k

kyleandtavion 07-26-2011 12:44 AM

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I received a email from rc4wd. Video will be up this weekend

td9clyde 07-31-2011 09:53 AM

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ok can i buy hydro parts???? i want a pump and valves out of one lol

kyleandtavion 07-31-2011 06:21 PM

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They sell just the pump as of now..... Yah no video and they had a few and are already sold out


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