2 IH 433 payscrapers (ps433-2 moves)
 

I do not quite remember all of the beginning so I'll give some pics w/a narrative . I decided to try to build (what I have seen thus far) what has not been done . so far it is a great success :D
the scaling of pics and design and pattern making , starts with a parts book and some general knowledge of compacity range as it's difficult to acquire data for these old machines . all motor scrapers have a basic shape and size according to bowl compacity . So I figured out the comparable machine in another bran such as a cat 637 to get the general dimensions . basically using the tire size to finesse the design
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...433drawing.jpg
the patterns
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...uncutparts.jpg
the 5th wheel
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...315thwheel.jpg
the cut plates waiting to be welded
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z.../4332parts.jpg
the next few pics are of the assembly . now scrapers are heavy so are these by design :D the round at the goose neck is a 12000# front axle king pin :p
the bowl assembly
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...r/4331bowl.jpg
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z.../4331frame.jpg
the goose neck
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...1gooseneck.jpg
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...1apronlift.jpg
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...wgooseneck.jpg
5th wheel and goose neck
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...15thwheel2.jpg
some cab and sheet metal
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...sheetwork1.jpg
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...sheetwork2.jpg
grill
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z.../4332grill.jpg
drive train HPI savage diffs anhime automation gear motors tried as a single speed great for loading but slow as **** for travel so playing with traxxas e-maxx 2 speed manual trans
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...bearinghub.jpg
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...2frontdiff.jpg
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...lder/emax2.jpg

running out off room
to be continued

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...bearinghub.jpg

I will be back to work on this 1 which I labeled ps433-2 soon . My 2nd trans showed up today . now to free up the lathe to make a few couplings .
as I said before I will have my vids up as soon as I get you-tube figured out . I got the watching fixed by getting a computer with a bigger processor

thats it for now ;)
thanks for looking
IHSteve

looking good steve, cant wait for more!!

Glad to see you found another trans.

Thats sweet...alll hand made..You the man Steve!!:eek::D

Your looking good Steve. Ed

These are so sweet.

good to see pics again lol now i just needa get my butt in gear and start my thread again so far nothin has changed with any of my scrap piles lol

Glad to hear about the new tranny Steve, look forward to an update.

I wouldn't call them scrap pile's heck mine came from scrap piles LOL 1 thing I learned in fabricating nothing ever goes as plan . I got to redo some areas to put the trannys in also extend the goose neck because of not having exact dementions but thats how it always goes for me :( but I still try to :D

( dirtpusher9 ) " Glad to hear about the new tranny Steve, look forward to an update."

thank you joe glad your here feels like home ( real home )no bs when you log on or phone calls of accusations when your busten you but trying to get your job done and get home to your wife ,kids and HOBBY :D. NUFF SAID ON THAT NOTE :eek: I'm soon to be ready for paint on my 5900i so while painting I'll be getting these tranny's in and fixing some flaws . Also It's starting to cool down a bit :) + looks like I'll be able to be in my shop more than just a 1/2 day/wknd ( I'll have to be :rolleyes: )

thanks every 1 + FDG+joe +paul
Oh If you mods do not like a certain few word I said , tell me I'll remove them
IHB

Re: 2 IH 433 payscrapers (ps433-2 moves)
 

Steve it seems to be really coming around. Ed

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thanks Ed . I'm actually working on it I haven't felt well yesterday now it carried into today :( so it's not lack of sleep . Its the way my body is with this weather . I'm figuring my gear train so I do not have to re do

here's the first vid of it loading
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z.../th_ps4332.jpg


I wiil try to get the next 1 on y-tube for those who can't see p-b

IHB

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Steve.. Nice going..

I could bring the D8 by to use as a push cat to save all that bending over..LOL
I always wondered how well a scraper would work for us..Lots of possibilities

What does the scraper weigh..??

Re: 2 IH 433 payscrapers (ps433-2 moves)
 

in excess of 40# , the weight is the key;)

IHB

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Freakin awesome Steve. I guess you're getting motivated:D

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yea I saw your pics on stripmine and just about cried :p

IHSteve

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Wow! Great job with that scraper. Loved watching the video of her in action. At 40 pounds, she is pretty hefty! Must be a pain in the back to move her... literally. :D Can't wait to see more from you.

Dan

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ihbuilder-looking good!! what tires are you using and what size are they?

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thanks Dan , yea she's getting heavy and not done yet still got to make the ejector and may fill the tires w/bb's + elec. and hydros . thats the purpose for the 5900i + rogers so I don't have to carry it :p

thanks Tom , the tires are off the tamiya mammoth . 6" dia. x 2" wide they scaled out rite on

IHSteve

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Hey Steve run up here and move my excavator with your lowboy will you? Ed

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Thanks for the info-I gave up on the mining truck I wanted to build because I couldn't find the correct size tires.

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Tom, Why don't you try to cast some tires from silicone? If you could come up with the right size you probably could sell some to others in the same situation. What dimensions are you looking for?

Re: 2 IH 433 payscrapers (ps433-2 moves)
 

I grew up with IH construction equipment and really enjoy seeing your scrapers. What truck are you considering?

Ken Sharp

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I wish someone on this side of the pond would do this.

Re: 2 IH 433 payscrapers (ps433-2 moves)
 

well Matt , it has been on my mind , but with my current makings the demand has exceded the supply :eek:

not only that I got to many builds going :eek::D

IHSteve

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I agree the construction tire issue is not very good here ...Wonder if the rock crawler parts supplier that makes the scale rig tires could be talked into making a few different versions ..Im sure the are a few guys on here the know him personaly .
THe scrapers are looking good steve...looks like you have the drive pretty well figured out with tons of power to load ..Are you planning to add a second gear as well?

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Tanks LOU I was planing to but with the trannys I got to change a lot . so I'm thinking of gearing it up for the high speed and use the radio to slow it down . got plenty of power and weight :)

IHSteve

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we need some up date pics i been postin on my pan lol ur turn lol i like seein your progress i think your pans are cool i don't know how you guys build in a small scale i like 1/10 so much more room

Re: 2 IH 433 payscrapers (ps433-2 moves)
 

Because the trucks are 1/16 and 1/14 approximately. The german construction equipment is built in these scales as well. Then there is all the diecast in 1/16 you can use for static loads/staging/cargo. :)

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Clyde nothing to post yet :( for some reason there's to many projects on the bench , drill press , lathe and mill and not enough operators :rolleyes:

IHSteve

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boy the dust got thick enough to pan it off :p got tired of moving my bigger sprockets around finally put them on and tried the scraper out . :) worked well :)

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What did you say? :confused:

You really need to proof read what you've written before hitting the send button. ;)

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Sorry :o the first time I did that :o

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hope you all can see these : unsure:
got both motors in and started on sheet metal while turning on the lathe
Shaft support and rear cross member
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...r/PIC_0442.jpg
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...r/PIC_0443.jpg
fenders and rear fuel tank ( still have to mill the supports out off it , tonight ;) )
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...r/PIC_0444.jpg

I'll get better pic's when the sun comes out . Finally got a few drops of mother nature

IHSteve

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Pics are fine Steve, glad to see you figured out good picture taking. :nice:

Good work on the fenders, the scraper is coming together nicely. I don't see the two speed trannies :confused:, not on this one?

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no , I ditched the idea for now . I just increased the speed through the gearing and I'll slow it down through the radio ( If I need to ) . The boxes I got just would not work for what I want . so when I start putting #1 together I'll build my own . I'm just eager to get one working then fine tune later .

IHSteve

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dang It joe , Now you got me thinking about the 2 speed again . After I wrote that previous post ,I couldn't leave it alone .( I get tiered of redoing ) . for some reason ,all my builds seem to take longer then I expect them to :rolleyes:

IHSteve

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Steve don't feal bad my builds never get done. i have a little too much A D D some times but your doing it right so it will take some time. you will have the power now to fill that bole up good and high.

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IHSteve- I laughed reading your last comment.....I second guess myself on a lot of stuff, just funny to see someone else doing it...got a kick out of it. It's looking good! I think there is a race going on.....let's see who can get there scraper/pull pan to fill the bowl 1st.

Ben

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thanks mog , yea she got the guts but slow as heck traveling thats the purpose of the trans to up the travel speed . I'm thinking making my own so low is direct and hi is 4:1 overdrive



Ben , I do not know if any one else tried theirs , but I loaded mine half full till I got tied of holding the bowl up by hand.


I'll be running the chain drive till I get the trannies made gona take some time by hand X 4 :rolleyes: did some more sheet metal while making wheel blanks post on it later this wknd ( no pretty paint now )

IHSteve