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ihbuilder 10-25-2010 08:07 PM

dresser TD40B dozer
 
yes another build I'm starting :rolleyes: well it will be a slow start and quick finnish . this time I decided to collect all the parts first then build to cut down on the redo time like the pans :mad: not a lot of functional probs just a lot of little things that bother me :( . So here's a cardboard drawing to somewhat scale of 1:13/1:14 (trying to get the most power pact into it as close to scale as possible ) so don't hold your breath on this 1 It will take awhile :( maybe :D

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...r/PIC_0559.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...r/PIC_0555.jpg

IHSteve

td9clyde 10-25-2010 08:26 PM

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I would find a good side on veiw pic and blow it up to the scale you want then you can make easy patterns but what you have is a good start keep it up and you will have another great build

sparkycuda 10-25-2010 09:17 PM

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Great to see this dozer being built. If you need reference material, let me know and I'll see what I can get for you. The distributor I work for carried IH Construction since 1925 - probably have access to most all published materials.

Ken

SmallHaul 10-25-2010 09:34 PM

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Looks like a fun build.

Good luck!

RAIDERS 10-25-2010 09:36 PM

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NICE START!!!!!

ihbuilder 10-25-2010 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by sparkycuda (Post 9495)
Great to see this dozer being built. If you need reference material, let me know and I'll see what I can get for you. The distributor I work for carried IH Construction since 1925 - probably have access to most all published materials.

Ken

ken , what would be a real help is a brochure on the pay scraper 433 . I have the parts book but it sucks for giving dimensions

thanks Clyde , this works well for me as long as I got some dimensions to go by . I've been itching to do this for some time . If goes well , I'll do a cat also . I think I might run out of scrap till I'm done building :eek:

IHSteve

Espeefan 10-27-2010 12:30 AM

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Wow. That's a huge machine! I didn't realize the weight and hp! Should be an interesting build to watch. You sure keep busy. I don't know where you find the time for all your builds!

ihbuilder 10-27-2010 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Espeefan (Post 9613)
Wow. That's a huge machine! I didn't realize the weight and hp! Should be an interesting build to watch. You sure keep busy. I don't know where you find the time for all your builds!

the 40 is like between a D10 and D11 . As for time , nate , I just came up from the shop :p couldn't sleep so I went to work :D and what a productive time it was :D:D:D I just about have a pump , got to bolt the segments together and pressure test ;) . OH keeping busy keeps me sane LOL ( blankety econ. :mad: )

IHSteve

Losiassociated 10-27-2010 03:00 AM

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Steve I hate to say it but I think you done lost your mind.LOL
Can't wait to see this one.

JAMMER 10-27-2010 08:16 AM

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Steve nice start on the dozer and glad to see someone's work place look like mine mass confusion but I know were every thing is as long as every one keeps there hands out of it. Ed

ihbuilder 10-28-2010 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Losiassociated (Post 9616)
Steve I hate to say it but I think you done lost your mind.LOL
Can't wait to see this one.


Greg , I lost it years ago :D :p it's just getting harder to evade the white coats :D . I can't wait to start it :D


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Originally Posted by JAMMER (Post 9623)
Steve nice start on the dozer and glad to see someone's work place look like mine mass confusion but I know were every thing is as long as every one keeps there hands out of it. Ed


LOL , It drives me even crazier when someone else move my stuff .

IHSteve

dirtpusher9 10-30-2010 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ihbuilder (Post 9615)
the 40 is like between a D10 and D11 . As for time , nate , I just came up from the shop :p couldn't sleep so I went to work :D and what a productive time it was :D:D:D I just about have a pump , got to bolt the segments together and pressure test ;) . OH keeping busy keeps me sane LOL ( blankety econ. :mad: )

IHSteve

How did the pump turn out Steve any fluid flowing yet?

I'm glad your building a dozer it sould be a brute.

ihbuilder 10-30-2010 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by dirtpusher9 (Post 9846)
How did the pump turn out Steve any fluid flowing yet?

I'm glad your building a dozer it sould be a brute.

yes with it clamped together , hitch to the drill . I think it'll work great . I still got to bolt the housing together and make the motor mount

I'm glad to , need something to move all the rocks before I can even think of using the pan :confused:

I wanted to get the frame welded up tonight but out of saw blades :mad: + the flipin esc on my sawzall acting up :mad::mad: supposed to be variable speed all I get is high or nothing :mad: so I'll finish the suspension on the tub this weekend :confused:

IHSteve

td9clyde 10-30-2010 09:20 PM

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we need some pics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol yeay another pump we need some good sources for hydralic pumps

ihbuilder 10-30-2010 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by td9clyde (Post 9867)
we need some pics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol yeay another pump we need some good sources for hydralic pumps

maybe next week end :confused: with all the cutting I'm doing , I think It's time I get some O & A for my torch . been going through to many saw blades . then I can braze the small parts that are hard to see to weld .

HAs anyone delt with these ppl. http://www.brancekrachy.com/index.html they have a good $ on offset links :)

IHSteve

Tamiya Cowboy 10-30-2010 09:40 PM

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Very cool looking build Steve it will be great to see a old school BRUT of a dozer..

Dreamweaver 10-30-2010 11:32 PM

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Can't wait Steve.... PICTURESSSSS Please!

-Mike

fhhhstix 10-30-2010 11:56 PM

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Ok Steve this just means more trucks and lowboys to haul it all.:p:D

Travis

td9clyde 10-31-2010 08:25 AM

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comes out to 80 cents a peice if you buy them at rule king or tractor supply stores

ihbuilder 10-31-2010 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Tamiya Cowboy (Post 9870)
Very cool looking build Steve it will be great to see a old school BRUT of a dozer..

thanks Paul

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dreamweaver (Post 9881)
Can't wait Steve.... PICTURESSSSS Please!

-Mike

pics will come

Quote:

Originally Posted by fhhhstix (Post 9888)
Ok Steve this just means more trucks and lowboys to haul it all.:p:D

Travis

Ahh travis ,thou shoult not jest :D:p well I will need more trucks and trailers to put blemished wheels on :p:D

IHSteve

dirtpusher9 10-31-2010 05:02 PM

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Steve, on your links for your rail, as big as your tractor is going to be you may want to go with a double pitch chain. Not sure what your pitch scales out too but you don't want to have a pad setting on two of the links because you would have to weld both links to the pad and then you stand a chance of the pressure when going around the idlers or sprockets breaking a weld. It would be simpler to just weld one link to one pad. I started out with the same chain as you but was apprehensive of the weld giving away.
Using the doulbe pitch chain you will hit every other tooth on the spocket as well saving wear and tear, and it is flat on the profile side giving it a smother ride. Just my 2 pennies.

ihbuilder 10-31-2010 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dirtpusher9 (Post 9952)
Steve, on your links for your rail, as big as your tractor is going to be you may want to go with a double pitch chain. Not sure what your pitch scales out too but you don't want to have a pad setting on two of the links because you would have to weld both links to the pad and then you stand a chance of the pressure when going around the idlers or sprockets breaking a weld. It would be simpler to just weld one link to one pad. I started out with the same chain as you but was apprehensive of the weld giving away.
Using the doulbe pitch chain you will hit every other tooth on the spocket as well saving wear and tear, and it is flat on the profile side giving it a smother ride. Just my 2 pennies.

Joe you mean something like this ?

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...r/PIC_0578.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...r/PIC_0576.jpg

I had these laying around for a couple years . my pitch scales in 1:12 to .875" this is #60 double pitch . By going with these I'm 10 links shy of what I'm supposed to have (39) also , I have them , just need the bars welded to them :)

well you all can see this is what I did today :) And yes ,I'm going to attempt to run this on 1 motor and make It steer like the real machine :D . It is going to be in 1:12 to make sure I can get some guts in it .


IHSteve

ihbuilder 10-31-2010 07:59 PM

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1 more pic . I had some .5x.125 bar laying around and welded some on extra links . my pads are to be 2" wide and these are 3" wide , no biggy just cut them down :)

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...r/PIC_0581.jpg

IHSteve

trucker n 10-31-2010 08:19 PM

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thats looking great steve:)

9W Monighan 10-31-2010 08:27 PM

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You can run a differential and steer via brakes on each side like a Cletrac. That will give you more push in a turn.

ihbuilder 10-31-2010 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 9W Monighan (Post 9972)
You can run a differential and steer via brakes on each side like a Cletrac. That will give you more push in a turn.

I was thinking of that . how is the differential set up in the cletrac ?

IHSteve

9W Monighan 10-31-2010 09:03 PM

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Have a look at this
http://www.gizmology.net/tracked.htm

ihbuilder 10-31-2010 09:16 PM

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funny I was just reading that . very simple design . I've come up with something very similar just I'm going to use drill planetaries and a right hand drive for the diff . basically the back off the machine will be all trans/rear .

IHSteve

SmallHaul 11-01-2010 08:47 AM

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Looking good Steve. Nice and heavy!:cool: It'll push some dirt.

dirtpusher9 11-01-2010 08:07 PM

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Yeah, that 's what I meant on the links, except the half links have the staight profile.

Man, you must not ever sleep with all the progress you make. It is a really good start. Be sure and post details about your steering cluches and final drives. I had thought about doing that on the 9 when I was researching and just didn't think I could pull that off.

ihbuilder 11-01-2010 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dirtpusher9 (Post 10031)
Yeah, that 's what I meant on the links, except the half links have the staight profile.

Man, you must not ever sleep with all the progress you make. It is a really good start. Be sure and post details about your steering cluches and final drives. I had thought about doing that on the 9 when I was researching and just didn't think I could pull that off.

joe I may not do that either :confused: I started figuring $ and what the guy wanted for 2 milwaukee drills was cheaper than 1 servo for a brake . I'm hoping to keep this low budget as I got some investments I don't want to loose ( 2 kittys ) but I'm dying to have something to start on my rr in scale :D . heck I could get the roadbeds dun in no time flat with the big stuff . but I was hoping to have the fun way into my retirement years .LOL Now I'm doing shop work full time , I can spend the weekends on my stuff + I put a lot of planning time in this and still changing as I build , go figure LOL

IHSteve

tracksntreadslou 11-03-2010 09:38 PM

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Great start Steve really likin those old Skool dozers...Having those steel pads is going to add some weight and be a pushing machine...Being a TD 40 in 1/14 scale what kind of dimentions are you gone have and will your lowboy be able to handle it?

ihbuilder 11-04-2010 06:45 PM

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Thanks , Lou , I was going to go 1:14 but I bumped it up to 1:12 to make sure I can get some power in it and as close to scale looking as I can was a last minute change order :confused::p the trailer will get a 2 axle jeep yet but since you said something , I figured my weights out . I'll need 2 more axles to be legal here :eek: so looks like a dolly is in order between the tractor and trailer . man It never ends :eek:
here's a comparison pic

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...r/PIC_0609.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...r/PIC_0605.jpg


IHSteve

td9clyde 11-04-2010 08:24 PM

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one drill motor with the planetary drive to drive one savage diff and 2 disc brakes off of a t maxx then gear out to a 4 to 1 reduction one regular servo for steering to disc brakes on each side then out to a drill planetary on each sprocket that drives the tracks then it is just like the real thing you could even put in a 3 speed with a high rpm motor then you would have a servo to shift 3 forward and 3 reverse

ihbuilder 11-04-2010 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by td9clyde (Post 10305)
one drill motor with the planetary drive to drive one savage diff and 2 disc brakes off of a t maxx then gear out to a 4 to 1 reduction one regular servo for steering to disc brakes on each side then out to a drill planetary on each sprocket that drives the tracks then it is just like the real thing you could even put in a 3 speed with a high rpm motor then you would have a servo to shift 3 forward and 3 reverse

why is it , I just get ready to ditch a thought , and someone has to put it back on the drawing board :p:p:rolleyes: I have what I need cept a diff , brakes and planetaries .

td9clyde 11-05-2010 06:06 AM

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:D:D:cool: i thought i would lighten the drawing board up :D:p

ihbuilder 11-05-2010 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by td9clyde (Post 10366)
:D:D:cool: i thought i would lighten the drawing board up :D:p

yea , it still got some weight on it :p I come up with so many ways to drive it with 1 motor but the $ the guy gave me for the 2 drills is hard to beat . my biggest cost is the sabertooth esc and a 2 spool valve for now , till I put the riper on it . I'll be back on it this weekend .

td9clyde 11-05-2010 07:03 PM

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use the other motor from the drill for another build

ihbuilder 11-07-2010 07:21 PM

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A little more for now , until next weekend .

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...r/PIC_0631.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...r/PIC_0630.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...r/PIC_0629.jpg

http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/z...r/PIC_0628.jpg

td9clyde 11-07-2010 08:11 PM

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nice progress on the td 40 i can't bring myself to primer or pait a thing till it is all built then i don't have to do touch ups and try to match the paint in


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