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Hello everyone i have a real big gripe about something ,i have been holding my tongue for a few tears now but i gotta tell you something happened just just burned my blood today.I am a huge fan of this hobby and love it to death but it irks me to no end how some people can be just truly stupid and ridiculous .i believe all builds whether you are new at it or an old pro are all equally important as the next guys .it bothers me when i hear guys or gals say my builds are not good enough to show with yours or they are afraid to post pics because they feel like their builds look like crap.well boys and girls i am here to tell you they do not look like crap!!!!!! we have all been there and we all started out with something we felt was not that great ,but it is.all builds are important and i love to see them ,and from time to time we offer some constructive advice to help out one another whether its a" oh i know how you can do that" or "guys i want to do this ..has anybody ever done this before"?..trust me it all helps us out in the end and we are quite happy with what we end up with.the other thing is i am not sure about anybody else on here and i can only speak for myself ,but i am and never will be in competition with anybody here or anywhere else with anything i do ..i am a grown man and i do not have time for that kind of pettiness. I build what i would want in my fleet if i can afford it in real life ..so far Zeus is the only one..lol Anybody who knows me and knows me well will confirm this.I do not care if you want to copy any of my builds for your own collection or to sell or whatever you want,there is one exception to this rule and that is Zeus.i cannot force people not to do it , all i can do is ask nicely to please not copy anything about that truck.
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I've seen your builds and they are looking great. I'm not sure which one is Zues, but my favorite is the old rusty looking one
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now i told you that because here is my gripe..i started to build Optimus Prime several years ago and this particular guy from scale4x4.org who is has joined here too now has been following my build for awhile until i guess he decided he was going to build one also.this person proceeded to pick my build apart on scale 4x4 talking about" oh the trailer is not to scale "..or "oh the paint is alittle off on yours " or" i am going to go all out for my build because i feel if you are going to build a replica it should be done right"...we had words on that forum about this and that was it ..i basically said i am not in competition with anybody then nor am i in competition with anybody now.they kinda backed off abit then. But it amazes me how some peoples lives are so dull and boring that they have to pick something out of a crowd and proceed to try to "do one better than that ",and still after all this time pick at things when their build is not exact .again i am in no competition with anybody nor do i care to ,i would just not bother to post anything ever again than to put up with this crap!!!!they went on to build their build and with lots of things that do not match up to the real one .i found a few inconsistencies with it but chose not to pick their build apart because maybe thats all they can afford or that is the extent of their skill level ,whatever it is we are supposed to encourage people to build and be proud of what they do .That is the way i am ,i am not here to judge of criticize anybody.and i really think some people need to mind their own business and like the old saying goes "if you do not have anything nice to say then shut f$%#$%^^ up!!!!!!!! well i added the last part which is my own instead of don't say anything at all
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in closing of this rant .i would like to encourage people to build what they want ,....when they want...how ever they want and try not to let others get you down on your builds .they are just as cool and important as the next guy or gal even though you may not think so .i have been building for over 40yrs now and there is no place in this hobby or anything that is fun for people that think unless something is perfect then it will never do .build it to the best you can and be very proud of what you have done because at the end of the day it is YOUR build :)
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I agree with 1985 this is for show and tell. Not for people to tell you what you do wrong, or a beauty contest... 1985 you build great looking truck and ones that are so different that they stand out......
I do not post many pictures of my build for that exact reasons.. One thing I have found out about building if you do not ask question and try to do things different from other.. You will never learn anything...... Just my 2 cents... Wayne |
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100% with you 85
my blue/white pete is a close enough copy of a 1/64 copy of the real truck to make me happy!! paint might not be perfect or the right shade of blue but who cares two members of this forum were able to tell what truck I was building. mom always told me if you cant say something nice then shut up!!!! |
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This is the truck Dwayne is talking about
http://scontent-lax1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/...21&oe=56099A02 And if memory serves me correct the name on the bumper lights up ? Dwayne the rivet counters have there place, but if there cant say anything good about peoples builds maybe they should take a minute to think of how they started also remember not everyone has the money to pump into builds with every bit of bling they can find and that doesnt always make them good, Cheers Tracy |
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thank you guys everyone's response here is awesome!!!! i am glad that i am not the only one who feels this way ..i love each and everyone's builds ..like i told one person awhile ago when they picked my BJ and the Bear build apart by saying the wheelbase was too long and i hooked it to my scale 48ft flatbed trailer with mini bungees as straps and this gent told me the wheelbase is too long and that who uses bungees on a load ...lol
i simply replied ..."i didn't know DOT was inspecting r/c trucks now":cop::lol: |
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Hey hey hey, easy on the rivet counter bashing :cop: recovered 1 right here :p:lol:
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Steve nobody is bashing rivet counters here..in fact i would think a counter made of rivets would be hard to put drinks on without spilling it :lol:....i know bad joke and this is where i hear ..keep your day job right:D
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Only stupid people will criticize some ones build. We all go to the forum to see great trucks, workmanship, paint job, technical ideas. It inspires as and drives forward the appetite to build and become better at what we do. Looking back at early models: how proud we where, hey, I built a truck and painted it my self.... Now, few years later we ourselves can see all the imperfections in workmanship and say:"boy did I post it for everyone to see?...how embarrassing". But that's what learning is about,to better ourselves,to stride towards perfection. Our builds are our baby's.So, Dwayne, if someone doesn't like your baby. Screw HIM.!
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I think the builds are all great, I look at them and think of ways I can use the ideas for what I am building. Some things I would do differently due to money, time and health constraints, but the important part is the doing. We are always our own worst critic. This is where our pride comes into play. Not everyone's pride gets in the way and we actually learn something.
So this is what I have to say to the nay Sayers, When your health and ability starts to fail your pride, remember that we are here for the enjoyment of the hobby that we love. We do what we can when we can. |
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Unfortunately, its the nature of the beast.... I too being a proud rivet counter am all about the detail and how things should be.... Idk about everyone else but I wasnt born knowing these things, it took some time to craft my skill. Some ppl will get there and some wont... constructive criticism is always appreciated and expected. The problem is when you do good work the only ones complaining are the jealous ones or the ones who cant do what you do.... With that being said its sad to say but the only real way to keep your stuff from getting copied is to just not post it at all for the world to see.... The min you post it up anywhere online it then becones the whole worlds business, it sucks but its the risk of dealing with the world wide web..... As far as the negativity goes you just have to learn to ignore them.... it works best and makes them even more MAD :D
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Brian I agree with you, Constructive criticism is one thing but it never seems to stop there. I have never complained about people suggesting how I can make thing better.. but when they pick it apart for the sack of saying something to knock a build it just sucks.... There is a number of builders on here that when I post a picture of a build in progress or just finished I can not wait to see what they have to say, because they will be honest.. and that is what helps.. then there is other that have never posted a picture of there trucks and do a lot of talking about what everyone else should do....
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One will generally bump into grown-up people with 'kindergarden mentality' now and then, naturally at these forums too. I feel these people are just a small minority, so just ignore them totally, is my best advice. If one goes out there and proclaim 'this is my latest build, and it is a 100% correct replica', naturally it will be a magnet for some people examine everything and try finding mistakes. If one does not proclaim something like that a all, only silly people will start a 'competition' and publically criticize details they mean is wrong..This is a hobby too most of us, and it is much a matter of time how detailed one choose to build. Someone want to spend 10 years perfectioning a model, others choose to built 10 models in 10 years, the most important thing is have a good time and enjoy!
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Dwayne, Wayne and Brian. I couldn't agree more. It seems the more effort you put into building something that you like the more people want to chew it apart or in some cases not give it any opinion at all. I joined this forum because I love building trucks more and wanted to learn from the masters like you guys and more on how they did there stuff and hopefully be good enough to offer help to some of the new builders that are starting out. I think I like building more than keeping them or playing with them. Some of my builds are good some are not so good but I enjoy all of them. This is supposed to a supportive " we're all in it together community type Forum" and unfortunately some guys ruin for the rest. My .02
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Cool! Now I have my next project planned out. A copy of Zeus! :) Totally kidding! Sorry couldn't resist!
But Seriously, I agree with ya 100%. I must admit that I am hesitant to post projects because some of the members here are so skilled. That is not a negative comment directed at any of other board members, it's my hang up because I wish my building skills were better. Also, I'm not around equipment or trucks like some who do it for a living so I just dread what might happen since I don't know standards, practices, like basic industry knowledge or stuff that comes from experience. Example: painting DOT numbers on a truck but having it pointed out that they are wrong for the class of truck or state or whatever, because I don't know what the system is. I've also put off projects because others on the board have done them and I don't want to appear that I am just coping other members work. I will do them someday probably but I feel I should try to put my own spin on them or at least a good bit of time between builds. It's shame but there will always be people who will want to "compete" with you or try to tear you down if only to raise themselves up. Just gotta take the bad with the good, I guess or ignore them and concentrate on the good comments/people. Btw, I just want to say that I should comment more on peoples builds but I don't because I don't want to seem just like a cheerleader or that I'm trying to raise my post count. So if I haven't said 'good job' or 'nice', if I've read your post just know that I'm sure I thought something like that. To be honest I haven't seen a single bad build on this board or the garden when it was up... |
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Zues sure is a nice ride 85. I'm still partial to the tattered look though. 💀
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I agree with" nothing nice to say shut your mouth"
Ive been attempting to build construction type toys for a few years now with my kids. having had no real life experiences with the real things this forum has been a great inspiration for ideas on how things are made and how they work. the same goes for programing these techo radios, ive also installed in my kids , if you dont know how to do something ask the question after you have had a go.. I have learnt so much just by asking a dumb question on this forum after ive messed up, and have had so much positive help that has helped solve my problems. by knocking someone it takes the wind out of their sails and they may drop the hobby but by encouraging them they may become a master piece maker that will inspire others. a few harsh words can be damaging , so for the knockers..... IF YOU CAN DO BETTER SHOW US OR SHUT UP. |
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Guess. I chime in here too, ya know the saying, don't hate the player hate the game, I honestly think the ones with the loudest voices of criticism are the ones with the most jealousy. Kind of like my local police force, a little bit of power now making up for all the a$$ kicking they got in high school,, it's not right but we all have to deal with the consequences. After I was 16 or so. I realized that the only person I need to impress was myself and if any of my peers complimented me or critiqued me then I knew it was for the better. And would only benifit from it. As far as the other jokers, who knows where they are now, passed up, passed on , or just passed, don't know and don't care. I actually like the negative comments on the side of you can't do that as its a motivation to do that!! Nothing is impossible!! And like the past posts, a quiet voice usually hurts those idiots the most!! Let um think what they want, but reality is not parked in their garage!!!
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I'm really glad you started this discussion Dwayne but what I'm hearing also concerns me.
When people don't feel comfortable sharing their work with others that's bad for the hobby and bad for the forum. Never feel intimidated by a master of the hobby. It is their talents that elevate the hobby and inspire the rest of us to join in the fun. I accept the fact I don't have the talent to do what they do but enjoy doing the best that I can and be happy with the end results. When I started getting into the construction equipment I was reluctant to share because of all the other guys who have way better stuff than me but realized although I don't have the best equipment or most detailed , what I do have I love and very proud of what I've managed to create over the last few years. Long story short, please, I encourage everyone who has a build they want to share, Do it ! Don't let the critics or better builds stop you! The moment we stop sharing , everything we have here will slowly disappear:eek: |
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Well said Mario!:) |
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If I can add my $0.02...
I've only been into the r/c thing for maybe 8-9 months, I've yet to be able to start my first build due to some family stuff. But it's this forum that got me interested. The builds on here are exceptional and the creativity simply astounds me. My only experience in the "modeling world" is with aviation models I built them to escape, and I got to where I quit posting stuff because it always got picked apart... I was maybe 16 at the time so I quit building regularly... I agree rivet counters have a place, but I agree with '85 no need to rip someone else's work. |
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No offense to anyone posting here . I think you all take it to seriously (spelling ? ) what ppl say about your builds or someone else's . Who gives a F*** what some nitpickin duch thinks , they're the 1's makin an azz out of them selves . A hobby is for your own personal enjoyment , If someone feels the need to pick it apart , well that's what the 3rd finger is for use it :D:D
warning : it's me birthday and puter acting like chit :mad: so, feeling especially diabolical today :D:D:lol: |
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criticism good or bad is needed in this hobby, but when it takes form of jealousy and people starts picking builds apart to make them self and their own build look better it need to stop, i've been in it on and off for 10 years i've seen the level of modeling go from what we in Denmark call left hand work to work of excellent, i'm amazed of some of the builds there is made today, some of the builds make me want to hide my own trucks and never let them see the light of day again, I've learned alot over the years, but most important I learned if there is something you can't do, there is always someone who will help you, if there is something you're not doing the right way there is help to get on the different forums, but sadly I see less and less posting, only a few members posting build threads, almost no new members posting builds, one of the forums from Denmark I use, close to no new posts on it for a year, on the facebook group for our RC club there is not nearly the same posts that there used to be, but I know that there are a lot of trucks being build out there.
people need to start posting build threads again no matter what skill level it on, the more you build the better it gets, lets start building and helping eachother again, as it used to be in this hobby |
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i totally agree with all of you but the point i am making is i normally let things slide but when i have somebody criticizing my build not only on one forum but on another that doesn't bother me like i said i am not petty like that, because i have always built what i like to build and really i don't give a #2 what anybody thinks because i am the one paying for it and at the end of the day its mine . but yet i look at theirs and may i add they have some simple inconsistencies with theirs that is nowhere near what the true one is but yet they claim to be a serious detailed builder and even copied something that i did because they did not know what to do and had the nerve to ask me on another forum then do it and tell others they came up with the idea ..lol too funny..like i said i am not here to compete with anybody ,but i am sure anyone of you guys or gals if someone was picking something apart that you built and they tried to build the same thing that was inconsisitent with the true build but i am pretty sure you would say something about it:mad: its been going on 3 years and this goof still picks at it .this goof i know is probably reading this right now and laughing to himself but it doesn't matter anymore because the very next time this idiot says anything about it again i will call his azz out on it :mad::mad::mad::mad:
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To Be honest with you some people just feed on the ability to get under your skin. Next time that happens shake you head and walk away!! Just like a bad smell with out rebuttal he'll eventually give up and go away himself!!!
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Thank you for starting this thread 1985, it came at the EXACT time I needed to read/ hear these things, and the resulting replies, as I have been "stuck" with my trailer build. I had fallen into the, "I've gotta get this perfect or I'll come accross as an obvious newbie...", when all I really need to do, is build MY flatbed using the tools I have available, and the very limited knowledge I possess. I found myself trying to get results that the "masters" of the hobby get, when in fact I'm building my very first trailer.
I've posted pics of my Knight, and got nothing but positive replies, yet on my trailer work, I've been scared to post pics, because I didn't feel it worthy of showing. I now feel different, I know I'm doing the best I can, and in reality, my results thus far, look good to me, and since my eye is really the only one I should worry about pleasing, I'm going to keep moving on my build. I've learned lots, and have found many tips on this forum, and feel that it's ok to use the basic steps, but not copying any be specific build, I've come up with MY WAY of getting the desired result. Will my builds win a national award, doubtful, but that's not my intent. My intent is to build something I'm proud of, and something that gives ME pleasure. I've read LOTS of threads, and replies here, and while I've seen many beautiful builds, not all of them are something I'd want, not because they're not beautiful works of art, but because they don't fit my particular style, but THATS what makes this hobby so great, we can all start with the exact same basic kits, and or parts, and each finish completely different builds. I'm going back to my workbench, and I'm going to let my "fears" go, and I'm going to build the best trailer I can, and I'll do it to please me. So once again, THANK YOU for helping me get past my anxiety, and move forward with my build. |
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The forum's lack of participation over the last few yrs or so is (imo) in large part b/c of the overall negativity in general... this forum seems to go through fits every so often about how expensive it can be... "why should something so small cost so much?!"
I don't work for minimum wage & I highly suspect the educated ppl who work with cnc machines, have the ability to do custom fabrication, &/or to organise kits or parts for sell, do either. They shouldn't anyway. The "you could buy a real one for that!" comments are just retarded & don't do this hobby any good. I know there's ppl out there with bigger collections than what I have with far more sophisticated models than what I run, but they won't participate on forums b/c they just don't want to wade through the drama of ppl judging them for what they spent. So think about that before you run your mouth about what others choose of their own free will to spend. Not all of us have ready access to tools, materials & custom shops to build whatever we want. |
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