Tonka Conversion
 

I've had an affection for 50's a& 60's Tonka fire trucks since I discovered them, as a child. Although I never got one back then, I have finally filled that 55 year old void, with some eBay purchases.

Since discovering the world of RC trucking, I've had a desire to do a conversion of an aerial ladder truck. Everything I need to do seems pretty straightforward. The thing I'm struggling with are the axles.

These trucks are 1:16 scale and I need to find something with the proper width for front and rear. The only other obstacle is mounting the hard rubber tires to them.

If someone could get me started in the right direction, I would really appreciate it.

I would be using a truck similar to this one. the goal is not only to be able to drive it, but be able to raise and lower the ladder, extend, retract, and rotate it. for finishing touches, I would add lights, sound, and a rotating beacon

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z...a/_MG_1760.jpg

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That will be an awesome project! What width are you looking for on the axles? The front would be quite simple to make but the rear may be more of a challenge depending on width.

Keep us posted!
Reg

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Cool project although you might upset a few Tonka collectors, but who cares about them. Anyway, Scott (SmallHaul) did a conversion on a Tonka dump truck which might help give you some ideas or at least see how he did things.
http://www.rctruckandconstruction.co...ght=tonka+dump

I think there have been a couple other Tonka conversions on the forum too, just search and I'm sure you'll find them. Hope this helps...

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Thanks for your interest.

I don't see mounting axles as a problem, but maintaining the stock width is. The truck is made of pressed steel and its thickness is .035". Outside of the frame at the rear measures 3.250". Outside of the front is 3.625". The rear is narrower to accommodate dual wheels.

Both of those widths would be my starting point, but I don't know what else would affect the actual final width of either. I've seen straight axles for the front, but get dimensions of spindles to determine final width.

Any help with this would be appreciated.

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Now wait a minute, I'm one of "those people", but I will remain anonymous!

I've seen many of them on youtube, so maybe my first stop should be with Scott. Thanks for suggesting him.

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Since the rear width is so narrow, maybe you could use 360 rotation servos for a drive setup? That would eliminate the need for a driveline completely and leave the truck largely stock in appearance. Just a thought.

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That ladder truck would be cool converted to rc.

i use the axles from a mini giant rc monster truck but, they quit making them many years ago and rarely come up for sale on ebay.

But, if you only need rear wheel drive you might check out the tiny metal axle that rc4wd sells. It is a 1/18 t-rex micro axle. The axle is very small but it is all metal so, you could extend it to the width you need..

http://store.rc4wd.com/118-T-Rex-Mic...xle_p_438.html

Good luck and have fun.

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I looked at the axle you suggested. The width looks like it would work just fine. Now for another piece of the puzzle. I need help with is attaching the dual rear wheels to the axle and shaft. Did you drill your axle shaft and put the pin in it, or did it come that way?

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Can you take a dremel tool and make a slot inside of the wheel for the pin on the axle. And then when you put the axle nut on the wheel should actually drive.

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I don't have any problem doing that, I'm not sure if the axle shaft in the differential, is large enough to put the pin in.

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If you look at the pictures closely it appears that the axles are already drilled for cross pins.

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You know, I believe you're correct! Thanks for pointing that out to me.

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No problem!

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This is how i attached the wheels on my first tonka conversion.

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/f...maxxin/P14.jpg

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I saw this in your build photos. It looks like there is a brass bushing inside the tire, that is glued in? I looked at the axle you recommended, but need to know the size of the nut to put on the first tire and the next for the outer. also, I am waiting for a response as to size of the pin.

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Yes, there is a brass sleeve glued into the plastic wheel to provide a hard/solid surface for the axle to sit in.

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Can you provide me with any information on the fasteners you used?

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i used metric screws, tamiya semi truck hardware, modified tamiya high lift springs, aluminum U channel, aluminum angle stock.

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Sheesh,


Scott I remember at the NPS show this August, begging for information on your conversion and all I got was, "eh, ya, something like that..."

Just kidding! :p

Jim

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Watch it Jimmy boy,,,i'll throw dirt and rocks in your tracks at the next show!:p