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tc1cat 04-10-2017 01:44 PM

FINALLY!!!!
 
I have wanted one of these for many years. Tried making one but was never satisfied with it.
http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/o...psblmypud1.jpg
http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/o...psfoitxb5m.jpg
http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/o...ps1q1wsh1w.jpg
Just need to add electronics to it and should be good to go. Entire suspension and drive are metal with bearings.

Hope to have a good start on it by Lebanon.

TRUCKMAKER 04-10-2017 07:04 PM

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This will be neat to see, congratulations Lynn!

Mustang46555 04-10-2017 07:35 PM

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Good to see it finally made it! Am looking forward to seeing it.

frizzen 04-10-2017 08:16 PM

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That should be really wicked when finished.

Build quick, i want to check it out at lebanon.

TheBennyB 04-11-2017 12:02 AM

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The El mod board is pretty good, only thing I hate is there are no parameters to control the momentum. Sucker drifts an extra foot after letting off the throttle (though I put in a 27T motor to get to scale speed not the recommended 55T.) Needs a drag brake setting. Also bring the axle cups out another 1-2mm further than manual states so the dog bones don't fall out on you and you can get full movement for steering. If your interested here's my build thread with observations. Some have been addressed with new parts now shipped with the newer kits.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/rc-t...xing-pics.html

tc1cat 04-11-2017 11:17 AM

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Thanks Benny. My kit is one of the newer ones. I will let you know how it goes.

FabOne 04-11-2017 05:44 PM

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That's really neat Lynn! Keep us posted on the build.

-Terry

tc1cat 04-11-2017 11:05 PM

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Well, the build came to a grinding halt tonight. Got to the 4th step and found out that I am missing one of the drive gear. Sent an email to the manufacturer to try and get one of the gears. Will see how long it takes to get here!!

Everything was going great until this.

TheBennyB 04-13-2017 09:50 PM

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If you have no luck try Carson at DKLM. I bought mine from him and he deals with MO directly and seems to kick them in the butt a bit to get things relatively quickly.

http://www.dklmrc.com/

tc1cat 04-13-2017 10:30 PM

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Thanks Benny. Got a reply to my email saying that they could not have missed the gear as they weigh every bag before they seal it. Only problem with this idea is that there was a straight tooth gear in place of the bevel gear needed for the drive line. No answer yet from them on my reply. Wait one more day then going to try your shop for help. Any idea if your friend has the turret rotation unit and sound system for the Puma?

Thanks again for the info.

TheBennyB 04-14-2017 01:00 PM

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Not sure if he has the elmod board or turret rotation in stock. Give him a try, can't hurt.
Got my elmod board from xion.de who also does have the rotation unit.

https://shop.xion.de/SDKFZ-234/1-4-a...veaomgjpu207g1

tc1cat 04-14-2017 01:58 PM

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Benny, THANK YOU!!!!!!!! Ordered spare gears, rotation unit and the elmod kits from xion.de today. I really can't thank you enough for the links you have provided for me. I can get one of my dream R/C vehicles running the way it should be.

Didn't feel like waiting for the manufacturer to make up their minds about sending me the missing gear. Can't complain about the prices at xion.de either. Next purchase might be the 234/3. Would look nice setting next to the 234/2. Do you know what the upgrade kit for the 234/3 improves or is it just a gun upgrade to a larger gun?

Again, THANK YOU.

TheBennyB 04-14-2017 07:49 PM

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No sweat. Believe it's just the open turret and 75mm.

TheBennyB 04-14-2017 10:31 PM

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Will like to hear your thoughts on the elmod board.

tc1cat 04-16-2017 11:23 AM

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Finally got a reply from Metal Origins about the gear. They want $12 for postage to send me a new gear! This is after they say that no one else has had a problem with a missing/incorrect gear in the bag. Mistakes do happen when people are involved. Since I have one coming from xion.de, I am not going to bother with Metal Origins any further about the gear.

TheBennyB 04-17-2017 11:18 AM

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Yea, unfortunately it seems most of these kits are being built as static models or kitchen floor runners. Don't believe MO or Xion have really had any input from builders that are planning on running it as an actual r/c. I've tried conveying my thoughts on the fusion board to both Xion and Elmod and it fell on deaf ears. Both coming back to me with the same responses that no one else has complained of performance. For the most part you have to approach this offering as a motorized model and not a R/C.

tc1cat 04-17-2017 01:40 PM

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Thanks for the added info. As I have not viewed your entire build of this model, did you make any kind of barrel elevation device in your model? Might seem like a small matter but to use this in a battle senario you need some elevation at times. Also any idea about infrared battle systems?

TheBennyB 04-17-2017 02:58 PM

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The elmod fusion puma board supports IR battle, was going to use the elmod apple but don't like how it doesn't have the 45 defense like the tamiya apple. Especially on a "light" setting vehicle, need all the help I can take from getting hit. The kit is set up for elevation, just need to install a mini servo(all in the manual). Don't use a full size, not necessary and it's a tight fit.

tc1cat 04-17-2017 06:13 PM

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Thanks, Next time I will read the entire instruction book :rolleyes::rolleyes:

tc1cat 04-18-2017 12:35 PM

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Just got an email that the parts have been shipped!:bounce::bounce:

xion 04-20-2017 06:45 AM

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Hello from Germany,

I´m Peter from XION and i will inform you about our Sd.Kfz. 234 project:

We will offer 3 Versions:
234/1 tba.
234/2 on Stock
234/3 on Stock

if you like to order an "234/2 PUMA" or "234/3 Stummel" or "234/3 Stummel" Upgrade, choose "selfpickup" (no shipping cost) :)
Put your forumsnick as comment before checkout!

some pictures from 234/3 Upgrade:
https://shop.xion.de/images/product_...ages/135_1.jpg
https://shop.xion.de/images/product_...ages/135_2.jpg

btw.
if you have any trouble with the kit, or defective parts.... feel free to contact me....

-Peter

TheBennyB 04-23-2017 01:12 AM

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Thanks for checking on this Pete. Seriously, talk to El MOd about putting a drag brake setting parameter in.

TheBennyB 04-23-2017 01:14 AM

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Any progess Lynn?

tc1cat 04-23-2017 08:06 AM

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Lots of progress on chassis just forgot to take pics and post- my bad. It is a rolling chassis now. Steering linkages seem to be slightly out of wack and will need some tweaking to get the wheels in-line and freedom of movement. Will get some more pics today and post for all.

tc1cat 04-25-2017 02:08 PM

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New pics!
http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/o...ps1qrbjjr2.jpg
http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/o...ps6h48nd7t.jpg

Still need to tweek the steering linkages. Waiting on the parts from Germany to finish the drive line. I hope that the body goes together as easy as the chassis. Haven't decided upon a paint scheme yet. Would like 2 color camo but haven't found a pic yet.

TheBennyB 04-27-2017 12:27 AM

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Upper is pretty straight forward. Only thing I found were the bosses used to mate the engine deck to the upper/forward needed to be removed to allow more room for elec/speakers. Just cut them down and used some flanged screws. Post #214 on my build thread.

tc1cat 05-01-2017 11:31 PM

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Got the parts from Germany to fix the Puma. Lots of things to do before I start working on the body.

TheBennyB 05-10-2017 10:24 PM

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Any progress Lynn? I'm living through your build to try and motivate myself to finish mine.

tc1cat 09-11-2017 10:42 AM

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Long time between building!! Got the drive line finished and turns easily by hand. Questions for you, Benny. Is your steering really tight-hard to move by hand? I even put bearings in the steering arms. I have some very high torque servos but I am not sure they will even move the steering. Also any problems with the fit of the metal side panels? My side panels do not fit at all. Cutouts for the suspension arms are off by about .100" when trying to fit to chassis. 2 of the suspension arms will fit but the other 2 are way off. Either the front 2 fit with the back one off or the other way around. ??????

tc1cat 09-11-2017 10:01 PM

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Update!! I have no idea what I did but the side plates went easily today with no problems.????? Steering is still tight due to very tight ball ends on the tie rods. May have to order different kind and replace the factory ones. Not what I really want to due but looks like the only solution for now.

Panther F 09-12-2017 09:28 AM

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You guys are a couple of lucky stiffs with a BA Puma kit. ;) But if YOU two find it rough and face obstacles straight from the box I know my effort would be futile. That and the $$$.

Too bad they burned down photobucket... pics sure would be nice.

Bo Wallen 09-12-2017 11:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Panther F (Post 158035)
You guys are a couple of lucky stiffs with a BA Puma kit. ;) But if YOU two find it rough and face obstacles straight from the box I know my effort would be futile. That and the $$$.

Too bad they burned down photobucket... pics sure would be nice.

Panther Red the post on this forum how to see picture from PB....They ar back if you put in the fix. You must use Google Chrome for this fix to work. Go here: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/d...bifiaedg?hl=en

frizzen 09-12-2017 01:52 PM

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Pry the ball links off and on a few times to loosen the fit a little?

tc1cat 09-12-2017 01:55 PM

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First, I deleted my pics from Photobucket so can't see them with the google upgrade. Sorry!! The upgrade does work if the pics are still in photobucket and you are using google chrome. I tried it and it works!!

Second, Many thanks go out to Peter at Xion.de for his generous replacement of parts for a kit not purchased from him. I can't praise him enough for the help he is giving me on this kit. I highly recommend him on any of the Metal Origin kits and upgrades.

Third, PantherF- you could build this kit. With all of your knowledge of WWII armor and the Tamiya tank kits, you would have no problems. It just takes longer to build as there is more tweaking to be done on it. Cast parts versus molded parts just means more fitting.

tc1cat 09-12-2017 01:59 PM

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Frissen,

Getting new ball heads from Xion.de. Hope they fit better than the original ones do. Might also try complete new ball ends if not satisfied with the ball heads. found some very inexpensive ones on ebay that are metal and not plastic. I am dreading taking the model apart to work on the ball ends.

Panther F 09-12-2017 04:17 PM

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I was thinking I saw once some link ends that didn't bind that helped with deflection and increased the angle range, especially for those high lift front-ends. (if I'm making any sense here) :D

It kinda looked like a brass bearing inside the joint... like a REAL tie rod end on our older cars. :confused:

Lil Giants 09-12-2017 08:45 PM

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Like this?

tc1cat 09-13-2017 12:15 AM

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Close but much cheaper!! Not going for a heavily use vehicle or I would have found better ones.

Panther F 09-13-2017 06:12 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lil Giants (Post 158062)
Like this?

Those are it, thanks! It's funny how much you learn from YouTube videos!

I do know that the geometry of the rod can affect the joint operating correctly just by making a slight bend or angle at the END, not in the middle.

TheBennyB 09-20-2017 08:32 PM

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Lynn, glad you've got things moving. Depending on the preduction of your kit, MO released new ball screws that are smaller making the steering move much easier. You can check my build on post #36. Carson at DKLM puts them in every kit he sells, other vendors may not or MO may have forgotten to ship with the new ball screws.


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