Barge-Mounted Clamshell Crane

[Jared]

You might have to build one of those bags or buckets that helicopters use to drop water on fires. Left stick is u/d for boom, l/r for swing, right stick is u/d for the holding line, l/r for the closing line. To hoist a full bucket the right stick goes to the bottom left. If it was a dragline I would have the drag drum be u/d on the left stick and boom as l/r on the right stick.

[9W Monighan]

Originally Posted by Jared

You might have to build one of those bags or buckets that helicopters use to drop water on fires. Left stick is u/d for boom, l/r for swing, right stick is u/d for the holding line, l/r for the closing line. To hoist a full bucket the right stick goes to the bottom left. If it was a dragline I would have the drag drum be u/d on the left stick and boom as l/r on the right stick.

Your set up is similar to mine and Smallhauls set up. I have to leave my boom fixed at one angle. Scott has the throttle stick for his boom angle but it's turned on with one of the switches that I found out by accident when I boomed up into the cab I didn't see it happening because some guy was talking to me and I wasn't watching the boom.
Here's mine hope the dashes don't confuse you.I don't know how to put the diagram with out the letters bunching together.

LEFT STICK--------------------------------RIGHT STICK

--- not used-----------------------------------hoist up

swing left-----swing right------------------- drag in------drag out

------- not used ---------------------------------- hoist down

[Jared]

I should have done this before:

------LEFT STICK--------------------------------RIGHT STICK

------boom down---------------------------------hoist down

swing left-----swing right-----------------bucket close---bucket open

--------boom up------------------------------------hoist up

My hoists are set up opposite of yours because on every machine I've ever run if you want something to go up you pull back and forward to go down so that's the way I think. I never thought about locking out the boom hoist but I'd love to be able to do that. I'll have to see if my radio can do that.

[9W Monighan]

AHH, I'm used to Bucyrus-Erie machines, they all hoist up by pushing forward on the hoist lever. I've run Bay City shovels and you pull back to hoist like most others. I heard several arguments before about why B-E does things different but can't remember why they did it. It makes sense to me because the first shovel I ever operated was a 10B B-E 3/8cy shovel.
If I ever get an operator on my 9W that likes Marion controls; I'll just reverse the hoist stick.

[Jared]

Seems like I heard the reason for that, at least on the big draglines anyways was so you could push/pull both levers in the same direction when the bucket was moving away or towards the machine. Somewhere on Youtube a dragline operator was explaining why that was but I can't remember what or whose video it was. I figured on the small machines that's just the way the control linkages worked out. I wonder if the BEs with air controls are the same way?