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Old 11-14-2011, 12:39 AM
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Received the excavator finally and shot some video of it's first time out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAF_PrkDOIc

I plan to make another video showing the details of the model and also the radio setup I'm using.
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Old 11-14-2011, 01:18 AM
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Congratulations! You have a very nice model, great video as well, you got the new trackdrive and thats good, the old one sucked!

Looking forward to see more of it, post up some pics!
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Old 11-14-2011, 12:38 PM
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This model looks huge. And the breakout force is impressive!
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Old 11-14-2011, 09:29 PM
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"Fra-Gile" Thank's for the chuckle! Glad it finaly came.
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Old 11-14-2011, 09:40 PM
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Need to post some photos of it in the "Show Us, Tracked Vehicles" section.
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Old 11-15-2011, 03:48 AM
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I'll try to get some good photos tomorrow. Been sick last couple days.
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A great looking model! Good video footage too, but I'd also like to see some more photos. These are impressive machines.
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Old 11-15-2011, 07:11 PM
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It looks like you've operated one of these before, pretty smooth, not much track bounce.

I'm using a Servonaut S20 speed control on the swing. What's nifty about how it works is that it somewhat ramps up the speed & down again so the start/stops aren't so sharp, I'm not shocking the geartrain. It'll help to reduce gear wear to keep your tolerances tight. It's alot of mass that you're swinging, especially if you're not level & stop abruptly on a downward arc.

Depending on the radio you're using, you could probably program your expotential for smoother start/stops too.
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Old 11-15-2011, 11:48 PM
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I believe this is the first time I've operated an excavator. The big issue I had was how much I was pushing down with the boom as seen in the video. Getting used to the controls too, once I have those down it will be smooth sailing. I can't remember the esc on the swing. I think it's a Schulze unit. It does ramp up and down but will stop abruptly if you stop the sticks too fast. A good point about gear wear. I will program in some curve to slow her down some.

What are your thoughts on the plastic track links Joe? I assumed they were metal and was a little disappointed when I received the model. I've pulled them off a couple times going over some rough terrain (way above what it should be operated on)
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Old 11-16-2011, 01:57 AM
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I had the same feelings as you about the tracks, i also thought they were metal ones, but i had no issues with them breaking or some serious wear and i run on very hard garvel ground with lots of small rocks and i see minimal wear so far.

I actually asked a CNC guy over on a swedish board how much he wanted to make aluminium track plates for me, he said around $1200 for the compleate bits, if make them in stainless steel he said "double that price"!

Are you, Joe intrested in getting some metaltracks maybe i could talk to him again and see if hes up for the task?

Its alot of money but the coolness factor would go way up!
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Old 11-16-2011, 04:22 AM
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Stainless would be awesome. I'm about to start taking some machining classes so I'm going to see if I can't do something about it myself
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Previously, my tracks only made a few revolutions before smoking a Sabertooth 2x12, then when I got a 2x25 smoked one of the motors. So my tracks have virtually zero wear to date! lol

And being that my tracks have turned very little, I was surprise to see some of the friction fit wrist pins have moved 2-4mm or so one way or the other. I wonder if I dribble a bit of blue locktite around each pin if that'll keep them from moving?

Kalle, when you say $1200, is that USD? Aluminum would never last under the weight of this model, too soft. And $2400 for SS is nearly half the price of the entire model!!!

I'll be doing lots of twisting & turning carving down the remaining part of the south wall, that'll be a good test for the durability of the tracks.


If you find you're skipping a track often PFB, then you may need to tighten them up. Tap out a wrist pin to seperate a track, the idler just pulls out. Using a 7mm deep socket, screw out the locknut till you have about 2mm thread showing with your spring in place. That's where I set mine to just now, there's still a wee bit of give there yet, but hopefully not enough to let a track slip off the idler.

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Kalle, when you say $1200, is that USD? Aluminum would never last under the weight of this model, too soft. And $2400 for SS is nearly half the price of the entire model!!!
Yes that is usd, thats about how much it would cost to get them done, i also thought that alu. would be to soft but wouldnt the alu be harder then the plastic ones?

He also suggested ductile iron as a cheaper alternative but he said it easly rusts and probably wont last long, powdercoat?

Yes for stainless it would double the machining time and so the cost, so its not worth it as long as i wont win on the lottery!
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I haven't had it apart yet, glad to see the tension can be adjusted. It's just set way too loose now.
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I haven't had it apart yet, glad to see the tension can be adjusted. It's just set way too loose now.
I have even changed the springs to stiffer ones, works much better now, have only lost my tracks once since i changed and that was when my friend tryed it for a while.
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Old 11-17-2011, 05:42 PM
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Hey PFB
I know i'm late,but congrats on your purchase of the JD excavator,enjoyed the vid,hope to see some more soon.Very nice model
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these are amazing machines for sure. The ground you were working with in the video seemed to be pretty rough and it didnt seem to have a bit of trouble breaking ground..I wish I had the money to buy one of these,but I just couldnt imagine the look on my wifes face If I told her I was going to spend 5,000.00 on a RC.....
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Try doubling that figure and see what her face looks like. Euro conversion to dollar is uber-sad now.
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Speedy Delivery!


Had some time to do some fab this evening!






Now to copy this one and make tabs for the axles. Still gotta figure out what tires to use. Thinking RC3WD ZXLs.

For those that don't know what this is... http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=j1xnR2E-iJ0
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