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Old 11-05-2017, 10:57 AM
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That’s what I call good deal. I spoke with Premacon and they quoted me a basic dozer with everything needed but remote, receiver and batteries as kit and the price came back over 12.000,00 euros. Way to expensive for my budget and for a model.
I think that this rc4wd dozer will be a very nice dozer and with a some upgrades it’ll be a monster machine for a decent price.
I love Europian machines, they are amazing good, but the price doesn’t justify. Way, way out of the place it should be.
Hope some day they come to realize they are loosing lot of space because of “ what I think; abusive” price.
I got other Chinese toys and they’re doing great. Really heavy and well built.
Thanks for the link Norther Farmer and I’m sorry guys for putting my point about other company’s on this posts, but I really thing it is time for this company’s to realize that they need to put a reasonable price or they will lose all the market to Chinese. It’ll be very sad.
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Old 11-05-2017, 11:21 AM
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One thing that helps the Europeans is they can finance there toys through the banks that helps keep the price up also. Ed
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Old 11-05-2017, 09:09 PM
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I own two Premacon built machines and the way to look at it is , you can buy a Timex or you can buy a Rolex . To be honest though , they are way too nice to get dirty and therefor not a wise choice for this hobby.
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Old 11-06-2017, 01:58 PM
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so just as im ready to pull the trigger on the eagle 360L this 946 shows up for 400 us dollars more but including the auxiliary hydro ports and the hydro operated clamp. Now I'm back to square one, which excavator to choose... eagle has done right by me in the past and I love my 870k loader so I'm really scratching my head here. Any info to help steer me in the right direction would be very appreciated, pros , cons that sort of thing. Thanks again Lenny
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Old 11-06-2017, 02:58 PM
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so just as im ready to pull the trigger on the eagle 360L this 946 shows up for 400 us dollars more but including the auxiliary hydro ports and the hydro operated clamp. Now I'm back to square one, which excavator to choose... eagle has done right by me in the past and I love my 870k loader so I'm really scratching my head here. Any info to help steer me in the right direction would be very appreciated, pros , cons that sort of thing. Thanks again Lenny
Oyvind also offers a good deal on the Liebherr 954 with Premacon hydraulics check it out

http://rctruckandconstruction.com/sh...ad.php?t=12841
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Old 11-06-2017, 04:09 PM
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Thanks for the fast response and the info, I will Message him and see. thanks again, Lenny
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Old 11-07-2017, 06:20 PM
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Hi Lenny, I would scratch my head too. Lol. Eagle seems to be doing better and better but this Liebherr set up os very promissing and looks amazing too. I would vote for the Liebherr 954.
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Old 11-08-2017, 05:52 PM
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yea.. I was leaning towards the 946 for the auxiliary hydro ports and clamp. still unsure of the build quality , but the videos I have seen it looks to be quite a digger. anyone have the contact info for the seller on aliexpress? Didn't see a way to Message them. thanks again for your help and advice.
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Old 11-10-2017, 12:19 AM
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yea.. I was leaning towards the 946 for the auxiliary hydro ports and clamp. still unsure of the build quality , but the videos I have seen it looks to be quite a digger. anyone have the contact info for the seller on aliexpress? Didn't see a way to Message them. thanks again for your help and advice.
Hey Lenny, just sign into your aliexpress account and select the Contact Now button.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Read...d-15ce78a31f07


Seems like thereís two sellers on aliexpress offering the 946
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1-14...d-15ce78a31f07
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Old 11-10-2017, 07:47 AM
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thanks you for that info N.Farmer.. guess I'll be starting an aliexpress account. will keep you guys in the loop about the info I receive from them...
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Has anyone had any good trading reports from Aliexpress?

They have tons of nice, hard to find items at very attractive prices but all the reviews tell a different story.
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Old 11-10-2017, 10:31 AM
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Has anyone had any good trading reports from Aliexpress?

They have tons of nice, hard to find items at very attractive prices but all the reviews tell a different story.
Millions of people order from aliexpress/alibaba worldwide donít worry about it. I ordered my 4200xl excavator two years ago directly from Eagle Machinery and paid by paypal. Had zero issues with the transaction and communication with the manufacturer was great.

Hereís their buyer protection policy
https://sale.aliexpress.com/buyerpro...11e55904NFYzbe
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Old 11-10-2017, 12:55 PM
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I've ordered 3 off Liebherr 956 from e-model store at alibaba in 2017, on behalf of some customers of mine. Used a Visa card, no problems with payment and shipping, arrived 3 weeks after payment. There is a guy, Paul, good english, no communication problem. When it comes to quality of the products, well, it's like you get what you pay for. The 956 is a more simple model than the 946, which is more detailed and more advanced hydraulics. Possible at same level as RC4wd volvo 360, at least concerning details)
At about 2000 USd incl shipping for the 956 (there is a CAT and Komatsu 270 with same technical spec, hydraulics) I knew that the hydraulics possible would not last for long. I was thinking to scrap the hydraulics at once, but we decided to just leave it and run as long as it would last. Cylinders ok. Pump & valve block is the problem here. One machine lasted about 1 month before breakdown, maybe 5-6-7 hours runtime I guess, another one lasted from April to September, don't know how many hours, maybe like 15-20. 3'rd one I have not gotten any response, possible not used as much as the other ones, but it's just a matter of time I get a call I guess All buyers where made aware of that at 2K USD, this was about the cheapest you could get, and one should not have too high hopes. I didn't wanted to replace a pump lasting just 10 hours, with another one lasting 10 hours anyway, even if it was for free. Well, I actually in the start had some hopes for the hydraulics to last a year or 2, but no That's the pump/tank unit sold seperately on e-model. Valve block not offered there seperately, but I might find a picture if anyone interested. Well, those 2 machines that broke down now got Premacon hydraulisc, at 1000 USD, so total cost about 3000. Otherwise the structure and rest of the machine was fine, it's the hydraulics that still have a way to go... The 946 seems a better machine than the 956 I have described. but buying a Chineese excavator in the 2-3-4K segment, you probably sooner og later have to test your skills as a mechanic) To think otherwise will be naive. but, they are developing, possible getting better and better.
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Old 11-10-2017, 01:04 PM
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Agreed. If I was looking for another excavator I would have Oyvind build me a 954 with Premacon hydraulics
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Old 11-11-2017, 01:27 PM
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Rimrock, you meant 954 not 956 right?
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Old 11-11-2017, 05:08 PM
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Rimrock, you meant 954 not 956 right?
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Sorry, yeah, it's the 954. thanks,
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Old 11-14-2017, 07:52 PM
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sure would love to see a detailed video of this bad boy doing its thing... (hint,hint)
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Old 11-14-2017, 11:29 PM
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sure would love to see a detailed video of this bad boy doing its thing... (hint,hint)
Checkout Oyvindís youtube channel
https://youtu.be/Sk9rzN84_6Y
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Old 11-19-2017, 08:03 AM
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white excavator has Leimbach hydraulic pump and valve, L954 it has all rcbrmin hydraulic

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Old 11-19-2017, 10:05 AM
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Thanks for the video Glowa, Your excavator seems to dig very well. How do you like the clamp? And would you recommend this excavator? Thanks again, Lenny
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