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Old 04-15-2013, 05:31 PM
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What can be said that hasn't? Awesome job, great save!
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Old 04-15-2013, 09:15 PM
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Rctech, thank you

Whitewolf, I'm using some of the original parts so I wouldn't have everything to reassemble the original for use. Not sure what ill do with the left overs.

Nate, Some milling has been done to certain areas of the plate mostly on the radiuses to help make the bend.. Like the curved section on the upper rear of the front half. I do also think some flat plates could have been stamped but don't know for certain. I would think to cut costs in manufacturing the possibility is high. And to bend all the angled plate for the kit by hand seems unlikely and more probable that progressive stamping would be the typical method of manufacturing.

CDM, the original assemble may have been rushed... I def would have done some things differently.

Morockn, thank you pal. I'm anxious too. I hope it comes back together nice.

Mario, thank you! Very cool to read that. I'm enjoying each little project that all come together to finish this build. I'm no master but appreciate the comments and support, I just happen to be familiar with the process and machines used here. I am lucky to have such a nice shop. It's cool when I can use the tools for a fun project like this.

Claus, a save indeed! Thanks for commenting, very appreciated!
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Old 04-16-2013, 04:20 PM
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A little progress...literally.


Stainless.



Heres the first set i was working on that i screwed up later...



And the second time around..




And heres a little trick for rounding the edges and getting them close by hand.









Gonne make some brass bushings yet.



I had mentioned earlier about making new hub caps that look more prototypical. I designed this and printed it out to see how it looks. It will replace the small yellow cap. Im gonna try to get into the cnc lathe soon, but no rush...still have a way to go before ill need these.





Anyone have a suggestion for these bearings? I priced them out from BDI and their 40.00 ea....

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Old 04-16-2013, 04:41 PM
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What is their size?

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Old 04-16-2013, 08:53 PM
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Old 04-16-2013, 09:06 PM
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Your rebuild is great.
What about rollor blade bearing, not sure if they will be the right size though

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Old 04-16-2013, 09:48 PM
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What a makeover! You're indeed making the machine 100% better IMO. It'll definitely be a much more rugged model. Nice to see your machining skills too. Great job and display of talents.

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Old 04-16-2013, 10:32 PM
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flanged abec3 or 5 would be my choice.. ~5-15$ each for most rc sizes.

i have always freehanded the edge curves but thats a great way for when you need it precisely with no room to regrind. thanks for sharing
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Old 04-17-2013, 01:17 AM
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Great progress! Always nice to see pics from the process of making the parts, keep em pics coming!
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Old 04-17-2013, 01:24 PM
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I just cannot stop looking at your updates, if you keep posting pictures like this then I'm never gonna get any of my machines finished. So much goodness.
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Old 04-17-2013, 02:27 PM
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Rctech, thank you

Whitewolf, I'm using some of the original parts so I wouldn't have everything to reassemble the original for use. Not sure what ill do with the left overs.
Seeing the way you are with the average metal parts, the only thing I can see either you not being able to replicate, or not being willing to take a stab at, is the hydraulics, and any odd assemblies.

I'd be happy with her paint-stripped, w/o any of the hydraulics, and even un-assembled, if you (or someone else) were willing to assist with re-assembly. I assume a perfectionist like you is going to strip all those layers of accumulated paint off her before you even consider re-assembly, and a bared beast, less a few pieces, that I could tackle.

Let me know if thats amenable... and I'm still admiring the metal-smithing.

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Old 04-17-2013, 05:39 PM
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JDH429 you are doing a fantastic job on the rebuild, keep up the good work.

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Old 04-17-2013, 05:46 PM
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Joe, no offense, but I don't think either one of us could say we know for sure. The thicker components of the WA500 probably are CNC machined, but I would also wager that the thinner components are stamped. I'm not saying it's a bad thing. Stamping yields high quality parts, held to tight and accurate tolerances too. Don't think of it as a knock on the quality of the model. The axle mounting brackets for the front axle, the cylinder mounts for the bucket cylinder, the front fenders, the c-channel bracket that the steering cylinders bolt to, the hood, the rock bucket components, and many of the cab parts could have been stamped. Progressive dies can cut, punch holes, and form small parts like these, and do so accurately. I'd almost guarantee you that many of those smaller parts could not be formed with a brake press. The bends would be to close together for the tooling. For a stamping die, it would be a cake walk. You should see what a progressive stamping die can make. You'd be surprised.
Nathan the Stahl parts are CNC cut not stamped. What Joe was saying is that Stahl milled relief cuts into the panels to force them to bend where he wanted them to. In the pics below look at the corners and you will see that the parts were milled about half way through where the bends are. He made the cylinder protectors the same way on the blade and even the hinges for the doors. Both my loader and dozer are made this way.















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Old 04-17-2013, 11:24 PM
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Travis, thanks for information and photos. I guess I'll eat some crow. Pass the ketchup!
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Thanks fellas for the comments. That bearing is a 12mm, same one found in a KH kit. Wow, look how crisp those parts that Travis posted pics of are....drool..

Heres a few more pics for you, Azonic, and Morock.



















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Very nice work. You will have one awesome loader when complete!
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Old 04-18-2013, 12:57 PM
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Your center pin joint look like it is going to be very strong! Wish I could do stuff like that.
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Again, superb job, looks like a clean and sweet shop! Thx for the pics!
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Old 04-18-2013, 04:44 PM
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Small, Thank you, I hope so.

Azonic, Thank you! Our building is still fairly new. About 5 years old so it is pretty clean compared to our last building which was 3x smaller and filthy as ****...Couldnt walk in the building without getting dirty.

Claus, Thank you. I wish my brain was very strong....

After comparing my new center section to the old I realized i screwed up a dimension by .260" which is the thickness of the bearing holder ...So i figured instead of remaking the whole thing i cut it in half and milled the difference to bring the bearing retainers closer together where they needed to be...I unfortunately have plenty of those moments..But i think it will work out ok. 4-3mm screws per half attach the center section to the front end. Its still plenty strong and all my holes on the front end are tapped 3mm 0.5..no nuts to screw with this time.



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Nice work Jason !
So first you show us your talents with a 3D printer and how well you work with plastic and meanwhile.... Your a master of metal too!

To say this loader found a good home is wrong
This loader has found the RIGHT home for sure!

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Mario, you hit the nail right on the head, no doubt this machine ended up in the right hands.

Jason,

All I can say is WOW!

Your skills are truly amazing, it seems there is nothing you can't do, and do well. Increadable.
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