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FreddyGearDrive 10-15-2011 08:03 AM

Re: CAT Grader in 1:14 with M-Series controls
 
Wow! Now this is slick!:eek: I'm totally blown away with the radio configuration! But then again, The whole machine is SWEET!
Nice job!
FGD

JensR 10-16-2011 02:20 AM

Re: CAT Grader in 1:14 with M-Series controls
 
Thanks again :)

I was at the beach, testing the new driven front axle - works very well.
But then the steering servo stopped working. It came back to life for a few seconds later. Not sure what happened.
I finished the day steering with just the articulation.

Back home I managed to squeeze in a standard-size servo.

I made a video, too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjL3S6gX6h0

Not as good as some of the stuff I see around here, but hopefully still fun to watch.

Best wishes
Jens

Lil Giants 10-16-2011 02:30 AM

Re: CAT Grader in 1:14 with M-Series controls
 
That's fun to watch! You're becoming quite the pro at operating it. :cool:

Can you dial in EPA for your throttle ch? Just a thought, maybe cut the forward max to 50% so it doesn't lurch while you're blading... maybe less.

That last 15secs, that was a great viewing angle, do you have some one helping you film? Be great to see more footage from that view. ;)

JensR 10-16-2011 04:37 AM

Re: CAT Grader in 1:14 with M-Series controls
 
Thanks :)

You are right about the lurching.
I did have Dual/Rate programmed. (That's the red button in my earlier video of the controls.)
However, for whatever reason, I cannot get the ESC to behave. This means if I get proper D/R in forward, I hardly get any speed in reverse.
Not sure what is happening here. So I disabled it for the moment.

For realism, the steering speed is also too high. I cannot change this on my current radio, though. Might put it in one of those Turnigy servo-delays.

The viewing angle as the end is done by me - I'm sitting on the ground and driving the grader with my left and aiming (more or less) the camera with my right.

Cheers
Jens

hauler_10-4 10-16-2011 10:38 AM

Re: CAT Grader in 1:14 with M-Series controls
 
WOW ;)

rc_farmer 10-17-2011 04:25 PM

Re: CAT Grader in 1:14 with M-Series controls
 
Glad to see you grading some sand, its very impressive.

rc_farmer 10-17-2011 04:35 PM

Re: CAT Grader in 1:14 with M-Series controls
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JensR (Post 38366)
Thanks :)

You are right about the lurching.
I did have Dual/Rate programmed. (That's the red button in my earlier video of the controls.)
However, for whatever reason, I cannot get the ESC to behave. This means if I get proper D/R in forward, I hardly get any speed in reverse.
Not sure what is happening here. So I disabled it for the moment.

For realism, the steering speed is also to high. I cannot change this on my current radio, though. Might put it in one of those Turnigy servo-delays.

The viewing angle as the end is done by me - I'm sitting on the ground and driving the grader with my left and and aiming (more or less) the camera with my right.

Cheers
Jens

Help me to understand why you chose to use D/R for fwd/rev or am i misunderstanding whats happening.

JensR 10-17-2011 06:25 PM

Re: CAT Grader in 1:14 with M-Series controls
 
Thanks guys :)

D/R on the forward/reverse gives you a much finer-grained control on the stick.

With D/R the full stick movement means only half (or so) of the speed, so it makes finely-controlled driving easier.
This obviously requires motors that are strong enough with the lower voltages. But if you have that, it's almost like a second gear. Well. Almost.

I hope it's just a setting problem and I can get it back to work and maybe even get it to work better than before.

Hope this makes sense?

Cheers
Jens

JensR 10-19-2012 02:25 PM

Re: CAT Grader in 1:14 with M-Series controls
 
Wow, cannot believe it's been another year!

In the meantime I have done a lot of things and still need to do some more.
Given it's my first project of this size, I don't mind, but I really want to get it done - but not rush it too much, either.

I have painted the machine and as it's my design, I decided to go with my "corporate" colours ;)
I made a larger mouldboard and did a better, more dirt-resistant mouldboard side-shift, including a rubber skirting to prevent dirt to fall onto the .
The front blade was increased in size, the ripper servo-saver stiffened up.
The floating mechanism for the circle lift was improved - less drain on the servos, better clamping force.
Circle sideshift was converted from servo to M6 threaded spindle.
Articulation is controlled by a sail servo now, allowing comfortable steering modes.
Improving the saddle rotation is my biggest worry currently. The sail servo does not cooperate with my "hydraulic module" (makes servo speed proportional to stick position, as opposed to servo position proportional to stick position). I know the real machines do not have an active drive on it. Rather they use the main cylinders to force the saddle to rotate. I might have to do that, or will have to look into other alternatives.
I also put a lot of weight into the machine, now at 9.6kg and therefore still slightly lighter than a 16M would be in 1:14.5, but it has helped with traction a lot, especially as the machine is 6x6 (which the 16M doesn't offer ;) ).
The circle drive was improved by having a proper worm&wheel and not mis-using a worm on a regular gear.
I also managed to improve the geometry/kinematics of the whole thing so that I can lift the mouldboard a bit higher.
And lastly, I installed some lights :)

Here's the collection of images going to through the building stages

http://flickr.com/gp/22070130@N07/13BERN


and here are a few selected ones showing the "recent" stage:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8002/7...3354884e_z.jpg


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7273/7...e12c2685_z.jpg
from
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2207013...57626598857828

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8462/8...40f7486a_z.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8037/7...f30df65a_z.jpg

Cheers
Jens

dabears 10-19-2012 02:47 PM

Re: CAT Grader in 1:14 with M-Series controls
 
Looks Awesome!!! Very cool!

doodlebug 10-19-2012 08:56 PM

Re: CAT Grader in 1:14 with M-Series controls
 
I like the color scheme! nice progress.

Cheer's, Neil.

Hemi1966 10-21-2012 04:19 AM

Re: CAT Grader in 1:14 with M-Series controls
 
Jens, I really like the color. It's nice to see something else than yellow:)

Stefan 10-21-2012 08:46 AM

Re: CAT Grader in 1:14 with M-Series controls
 
Looking great, Jens. Very cool! At some distance you hardly notice it´s not 100% scale. Especially when the lights are on.

Stefan

Dieselchopper 10-24-2012 10:59 AM

Re: CAT Grader in 1:14 with M-Series controls
 
Very cool good job.

JensR 06-30-2013 07:52 PM

Re: CAT Grader in 1:14 with M-Series controls
 
Thanks everybody! Much appreciated :)

Did a bit more detail work, painted the new blade and rotation mechanism, installed a better ESC and just these last two weeks built and installed a new better floating mechanism.

Managed to shoot a bit of video, again, not very high quality:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nXoehdzEL0

Updated pics at the usual location:
http://flickr.com/gp/22070130@N07/13BERN

Espeefan 06-30-2013 09:34 PM

Re: CAT Grader in 1:14 with M-Series controls
 
Great updates! Glad to see this machine is still alive and kicking, with some improvements to make it better. I do like the fresh paint and working lights. From the right angle it looks nice and realistic.

rc_farmer 07-01-2013 08:42 PM

Re: CAT Grader in 1:14 with M-Series controls
 
Very well done.....:D

JensR 06-04-2014 06:34 PM

Re: CAT Grader in 1:14 with M-Series controls
 
Thanks folks! :) :)

Has it really been over a year again?!
Looking at the photos, it seems hardly anything has changed!

http://flickr.com/gp/22070130@N07/13BERN

But behind the scenes, I did a lot of time-consuming improvements on the floating mechanism, serviceability and reliability of the mouldboard sideshift and have converted the saddle-drive with a saddle-clamp, similar to what the 1:1 graders have. The torque generated from the forces on the mouldboard to the variety of gear motors I had used before was just too high. I still think a motorised saddle would be neat, but it would require quite a bit of re-engineering, fitting a larger gear motor and most importantly a sturdy worm drive...

Recent (and ongoing) improvements include converting the front motors to brushless motors with considerably more power. That's done now, but I need to hide the dual ESCs and extra wires inside the frame.

For the next year or so I have a few improvements planned for the main drive as well, plus a whole list of electronic features. All of these will be tested on a wooden mock-up - if they work, I'll transfer them to the real machine.

This will allow me to use the grader while I work on those gadgets. I've been out driving a few times over the last weeks and have done a few youtube videos, which you can see on my youtube channel

https://www.youtube.com/user/YensR/videos

Hope you enjoy these!

Best wishes
Jens


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