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PilotJesse 10-19-2021 04:33 PM

Wedico Peterbilt Day Cab
 
I've always wanted to build a Wedico Peterbilt, but have found out recently that the Peterbilt kits are not available from Wedico anymore. So I started my search for a previously owned one. Ric at Precision Model Distributers graciously gave me the opportunity to buy one of his. After a long wait, here's the starting point. I have a lot of plans for this truck, with lots of custom parts and lots of modifications!

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PilotJesse 10-19-2021 04:36 PM

Re: Wedico Peterbilt Day Cab
 
First Step: Start rear-end disassembly

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PilotJesse 10-19-2021 04:42 PM

Re: Wedico Peterbilt Day Cab
 
Ordered and installed Wedico quarter fenders. I like the look of these over the full fenders. They need some modification, but they'll do for now. The stock spring suspension isn't very realistic... it will have to go!

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PilotJesse 10-19-2021 05:00 PM

Re: Wedico Peterbilt Day Cab
 
Well the stock spring suspension had to go! I ordered a walking spring suspension from Ric at PMD. When it arrived, I did a quick test-fit. YIKES. Not what I had in mind. Might be suitable for trucks in Europe, but did not look at all like a Peterbilt suspension. Another item that needed to go was the stock Wedico fifth wheel. A lot of stock Wedico/Tamiya trailers sit up too high for my liking, and do not look right to me. I want this truck to look as realistic as I can, while still functioning. So I ordered a ScaleArt fifth wheel. Waited a long time for it, but I am very happy with the reduced height and quality of the engineering of this one. More on the fifth wheel situation later!

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PilotJesse 10-19-2021 05:10 PM

Re: Wedico Peterbilt Day Cab
 
I tried and tried to convince myself to buy a suspension that was already designed, built, and ready to install. Nothing that I could find fit the bill. I decided on an airbag suspension, and the only one I could find out there was from Lesu. Can't be putting Chinese junk on a fine piece of German engineering! I was left with only one option... design and build it myself. This project is already turning into more than I bargained for, but I wouldn't have it any other way. Came up with this design based on the Peterbilt Low Leaf air ride suspension. The parts will have to be 3D printed, but with the high quality of metal (yes, I said metal!!) printing, I am not worried about putting poor-quality printed parts on a high quality model. Lots more to do!


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PilotJesse 10-19-2021 05:14 PM

Re: Wedico Peterbilt Day Cab
 
Well the first run of parts look amazing. I could not be happier with the quality of these printed parts. They are printed out of brass.

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PilotJesse 10-19-2021 05:16 PM

Re: Wedico Peterbilt Day Cab
 
The excitement is building. Cannot believe how well these parts turned out. I only ordered enough for one axle, just in case I messed up with my design.

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9W Monighan 10-20-2021 10:30 AM

Re: Wedico Peterbilt Day Cab
 
What does something like that cost for printing? I have some parts that if I can get time to draw, that need made.

Lil Giants 10-20-2021 11:13 AM

Re: Wedico Peterbilt Day Cab
 
Printed metal, that looks awesome! :cool:

Wonder what the ratio is compared to actual brass?

frizzen 10-20-2021 11:45 AM

Re: Wedico Peterbilt Day Cab
 
That truck is looking a lot better already.

Cool looking printed brass parts

PilotJesse 10-20-2021 09:23 PM

Re: Wedico Peterbilt Day Cab
 
I had these 10 parts (half of the total rear suspension) printed for total cost of around $200. I'm not sure what percentage of the part is actual brass, I will weigh the spring hangar and figure out density, and compare. They are heavy so I would say they are mostly (if not 100%) brass. I ordered some brass flat stock and it arrived today, so I cut and bent the lower leaf springs. I am not a machinist and this was my first time bending metal. Took me a few tries but I'm pleased how they turned out. They still need a little bit of finishing.

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PilotJesse 10-20-2021 09:25 PM

Re: Wedico Peterbilt Day Cab
 
And of course, had to do a mock-up... I think it's going to look great! Disregard the Wedico walking spring hangar, that will be removed.

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Lil Giants 10-20-2021 10:23 PM

Re: Wedico Peterbilt Day Cab
 
I forgot a word in my last post, wonder what the strength ratio is compared to actual brass?

The detail that came from the print is incredible, I can't recall any cnc machining that good on something so small. It's great to see how much technology has improved this specific hobby over the last 26yrs.

trilliwilli 10-21-2021 11:57 AM

Re: Wedico Peterbilt Day Cab
 
Hi Jesse, nice to see a Wedico model again. You are serious about the detailing, so it is going to look very nice.

On the German forum there is one that build a Wedico Peterbilt years ago, and is currently rebuilding it. He has put all the original photos back in the topic, and one of the outstanding things he is currently doing in placing ribbets on the model. He has drilled 1500 holes and placed all the ribbets in there. You can see pictures of this on the last pages of the topic.

https://www.modelltruckforum.de/foru...lt-von-wedico/

About the 3D printed metal, the strength and density is almost the same. We have tested with vacuum parts, and the results are very good. There are some materials already certifeid for medical implants, the demands are very high here.

For instance reconstruction of the jawbone after an accident. They make a 3D scan of the face and reconstruct missing bone with printed implants.

The development is already on a very high level, we are printing in Stainless steel 304 and Titanium. We have two metal printers, but the process is cumbersome and expensive. Results are very promissing though.

Good luck with the build, your air ride suspension is very nice.

Zabco 10-21-2021 06:26 PM

Re: Wedico Peterbilt Day Cab
 
Are these parts you had made from Shapeways? I have had several brass pieces made by them. If you are not aware of it, they are not 'printed' brass, they are cast using the lost wax method. Shapeways uses the 3d file (.stl) you send them to print the part in wax then use the wax print to make a plaster mold. Brass is then melted and poured in the mold to make the part. While Shapeways does print some metals, their brass parts are cast.

trilliwilli 10-22-2021 01:50 AM

Re: Wedico Peterbilt Day Cab
 
As far as I know all brass parts are made with the lost wax method, not just at Shapeways.

Printing copper and its alloys is very difficult, as is laser cutting and welding it.

skeeter 10-24-2021 03:06 PM

Re: Wedico Peterbilt Day Cab
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PilotJesse (Post 171342)
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That replacement 5th wheel looks a lot gooder than the stock 5th wheel plate did!

They are printed out of brass.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...29f96b28_z.jpg

Did you have to get a special noxxle to 3D print those? Would you please share a link to buy that brass filament. What temperature does it print at? Can a standard 3D printer print with this material? I'm very interested in experimenting with this stuff!

PilotJesse 10-24-2021 06:57 PM

Re: Wedico Peterbilt Day Cab
 
Thanks guys. The parts are from Shapeways, and sure enough, they are lost wax cast. Did not realize that until now! They are very high quality, and I am excited to use them. I plan on using parts like this to really hone in on the authentic Peterbilt look. This will be a slow build but I want to do it right!

PilotJesse 10-25-2021 05:41 PM

Re: Wedico Peterbilt Day Cab
 
Well... things don't always work out the way I plan! Designed and had "printed" a more realistic Peterbilt tow hook for the front bumper. Doesn't look proportional at all. Like all the other parts, I used pictures from Google and scaled the parts based on known dimensions, and looks like I was slightly off on this one. Going to go find some real dimensions, and back to the drawing board.

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PilotJesse 10-25-2021 07:15 PM

Re: Wedico Peterbilt Day Cab
 
Started looking at it closer and did some more scaling from pictures I had saved. Actually seems to be about right based on real dimensions. I was a few hundredths of an inch off, but I'd say that's within the margin of error. Test fit it on the truck with the old bumper still installed. Tow hook will eventually be painted black and will have a tow pin installed. What do y'all think? Let it ride or re-design? I'm on the fence.

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jerry56 10-26-2021 11:07 AM

Re: Wedico Peterbilt Day Cab
 
I guess it would depend on how much it cost to remake, and how perfect you want it to be.
But with it sticking out from the front bumper like that it is in full view and your eye will go right to it ....If it were hidden or partially hidden I would probably let it go..... but it's front and center on the truck...

frizzen 10-26-2021 01:02 PM

Re: Wedico Peterbilt Day Cab
 
It looks pretty good, but I might see if it looks like you could adjust the size with a file and caliper before sending for a reprint.

Plus sometimes we have to make compromises for durability and ease of use over staying absolute purely scale. If the smaller pintle won't hold atleast the weight of truck, it's likely not worth the effort to have it redone.

Espeefan 10-28-2021 03:58 PM

Re: Wedico Peterbilt Day Cab
 
The tow hitch looks fine to me! Your other cast and or printed parts look great too. You are off to a good start on making this Wedico look much better and more scale. Keep it up.

PilotJesse 10-28-2021 07:56 PM

Re: Wedico Peterbilt Day Cab
 
Thanks for the feedback guys. This is a comparison of what it looks like vs. the goal. It's just the slightest bit big. Might be passable but I want to do this truck right! Going to make it just the tiniest bit smaller and see where that gets us. Lots of trial and error with this truck.

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skeeter 11-15-2021 02:14 PM

Re: Wedico Peterbilt Day Cab
 
Personally, I'd let er ride!
If you remake er, will the tow point be string enough to be functional?

PilotJesse 11-15-2021 09:36 PM

Re: Wedico Peterbilt Day Cab
 
We're going to let the front tow hook go for now. I think it will look smaller once it's painted. It's been a while since I've worked on the truck, but started some disassembly tonight. Lots and lots of wires! Glad I have all the wiring diagrams, they're going to be a big help!
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PilotJesse 11-15-2021 10:14 PM

Re: Wedico Peterbilt Day Cab
 
What have I done!!!
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PilotJesse 12-12-2021 04:38 PM

Re: Wedico Peterbilt Day Cab
 
Been working a lot recently, and haven't had time to work on the truck. Started test fitting the airbag suspension and realized that the leaf springs are too short. Luckily that's an easy fix.

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PilotJesse 12-12-2021 04:40 PM

Re: Wedico Peterbilt Day Cab
 
Went ahead and did a test fit of the axle and airbags to see how it would look. I know I'm missing some pieces, but I think this rear end is going to turn out great when I'm done!

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PilotJesse 12-20-2021 09:49 PM

Re: Wedico Peterbilt Day Cab
 
Not much progress on the truck as of recently, but did some more tinkering. Next step is going to be lowering the front end to make it more realistic. As everyone knows, the front ends of these Wedico trucks sit up way too high. It's amazing how much more modern the truck looks without the dated visor and fender turn signals. Both will be left off the truck. Now just waiting for parts!

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Claus 12-20-2021 11:00 PM

Re: Wedico Peterbilt Day Cab
 
Nice work Jesse. The trick is getting the truck to sit level once you lower the front end. Also to keep the front wheels from rubbing fenders or bumper. Remember these trucks are 359s not 379s or 389s! I kind of like them being the older 359 myself.

PilotJesse 12-21-2021 02:47 PM

Re: Wedico Peterbilt Day Cab
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Claus (Post 171540)
Nice work Jesse. The trick is getting the truck to sit level once you lower the front end. Also to keep the front wheels from rubbing fenders or bumper. Remember these trucks are 359s not 379s or 389s! I kind of like them being the older 359 myself.

Thanks Claus, I designed the rear suspension so that the truck will sit level once the front end is lowered to an acceptable height, so it should work out just fine.

PilotJesse 01-11-2022 06:37 PM

Re: Wedico Peterbilt Day Cab
 
Small update: little details make a big difference. Changed the mesh in the air cleaners to a photo etched round hole design instead of the woven wire mesh that came with them. I think that they look a lot better! Hoping to have some bigger updates soon.
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egronvold 01-12-2022 06:45 PM

Re: Wedico Peterbilt Day Cab
 
Nice upgrade.

frizzen 01-14-2022 09:06 AM

Re: Wedico Peterbilt Day Cab
 
That mesh looks awesome

jerry56 01-14-2022 09:24 AM

Re: Wedico Peterbilt Day Cab
 
I just love the attention to detail you guys have..... amazing..

bigpipespete 01-14-2022 10:11 PM

Re: Wedico Peterbilt Day Cab
 
Where did you buy the photo etch screen for your air cans . Youre not kidding that makes a big difference.

PilotJesse 01-18-2022 08:00 PM

Re: Wedico Peterbilt Day Cab
 
Thanks guys! The photo etch round mesh is from amazon (link below). They have lots of different patterns and designs. I ordered a few different styles for various parts on the truck.

https://www.amazon.com/Madworks-Spir.../dp/B07MX1LWVJ

PilotJesse 01-20-2022 11:27 AM

Re: Wedico Peterbilt Day Cab
 
Started some work on the grille. The stock Wedico grille isn't bad, but it's not what I want. I love the OEM Peterbilt grille design with the oval pattern, and couldn't find anything off the shelf that would suffice, so just like a lot of other things on this truck, time to design my own. I printed out a mock-up of my design, and I think I'll be happy with it. Off to be laser cut!

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PilotJesse 01-20-2022 11:31 AM

Re: Wedico Peterbilt Day Cab
 
Also got the cab disassembled, and stripped. Have a couple of modifications to the cab while it's raw.

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