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jazza 12-27-2012 07:29 PM

How to make hydraulic valve?
 
Can any once tell to me, How i can make hydraulic valve? or post assembly image of it.

Thank in advance.

Jw. 12-28-2012 03:19 PM

Re: How to make hydraulic valve?
 
Hey Jazza check out Trucker47's thread on his loader. Page 4 and Page 5 has photos of his whole hydraulic setup he homemade.
http://www.rctruckandconstruction.co...ead.php?t=3260
http://i345.photobucket.com/albums/p...7/IMG_6171.jpg

RCP57 12-28-2012 03:49 PM

Re: How to make hydraulic valve?
 
That is much the same as what I have built. There are other styles out there too but this type(rotary) is quite common.
http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/...7/IMG_1619.jpg
http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/...7/IMG_1622.jpg
http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/...7/IMG_1626.jpg
http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/...7/IMG_1625.jpg
http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/...7/IMG_1624.jpg
http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/...7/IMG_1623.jpg

Reg

Jw. 12-28-2012 05:11 PM

Re: How to make hydraulic valve?
 
Valves for our applications are normally fall under the 5/4 port 4 way 3 position setup. As in this picture below trying to explain the ports. Its of a spool valve to get backward and forward control of a hydraulic circuit. I recommend going with the rotary valves shown above. They have the same fluid control but tolerances are easier to obtain than a spool setup. Also I recommend a closed center position so your hydraulics will not creep. How you make each valve is up to you. Individual depending on your application or together on a manifold with pressure and return circuits built in like RCP57's really nice manifold set up.

Ps Pressure from your pump
Pr X2 Return circuit. Combined on a rotary valve. Seen on the above pictures.
Pa and PbYour lines to both sides of your cylinder.


http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...ps5477f7fc.png

jazza 12-29-2012 06:47 AM

Re: How to make hydraulic valve?
 
Thank you all answer, It's really help me.
Can any once post the rotary valve blue print?

sorry for my more question, I'm a newbie :)

cosworth34677 12-31-2012 12:00 PM

Re: How to make hydraulic valve?
 
i quite don't get the layout of that pic? i want to make my own vale too. and really having a time with all the hydraulic stuff, price and understanding (pulling hair out)

Jw. 12-31-2012 02:58 PM

Re: How to make hydraulic valve?
 
Please excuse my poor cad abilities as I'm still trying to learn. This is the manifold I quickly drew up to help explain.


http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...ps61eba1d1.jpg

http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...ps2e5ef95b.jpg

RCP57 12-31-2012 03:36 PM

Re: How to make hydraulic valve?
 
Looks pretty clear to me! Nice drawing.

Jw. 12-31-2012 08:09 PM

Re: How to make hydraulic valve?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RCP57 (Post 73859)
Looks pretty clear to me! Nice drawing.

Thanks! I eventually will be attempting this myself at some point. What did you end up having as a diameter for your valves? I read through your thread and you ended up making them smaller than you original planned. It looks like your manifold is steel? Whats the valve body? Aluminum? Also what did you use for seals?

I spent some more time in cad came up with this.
http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/y...ps5fe7e768.jpg

Madda 01-01-2013 12:58 PM

Re: How to make hydraulic valve?
 
Jw., good job on the drawings!


One thing that I'm not really sure of is where and what seals are used?

ihbuilder 01-01-2013 01:45 PM

Re: How to make hydraulic valve?
 
JW : steel or iron next to brass would be the best choice for your manifold . Aluminum does not wear well .


Madda : O-rings work well for the seals as you should only have to seal the shaft of the rotor and the rotor cap . between the rotor and the valve block , you should have a lapped fit .

RCP57 01-01-2013 03:44 PM

Re: How to make hydraulic valve?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ihbuilder (Post 73924)
JW : steel or iron next to brass would be the best choice for your manifold . Aluminum does not wear well .


Madda : O-rings work well for the seals as you should only have to seal the shaft of the rotor and the rotor cap . between the rotor and the valve block , you should have a lapped fit .

I agree with Steve 100%. The valve that I made for my skidder is all aluminum with brass rotors but it may not last long. The valve block that my father in-law made for my EC300DL has a steel manifold and should last much longer. The shafts are sealed with common O rings on both. The EC300 runs at 30-35 bar with no leaks on the valve shafts.

RCP57 01-01-2013 03:54 PM

Re: How to make hydraulic valve?
 
This is the only picture that I took of the Volvo's valve assembley. I believe the pistons in this are .550. In mine they are slightly larger at .610.
http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/...ps436361cb.jpg

ihbuilder 01-01-2013 04:20 PM

Re: How to make hydraulic valve?
 
even with the poor tolerances on the Robbie valves , they don't leak . The rotor just chews up the manifold . When I get back to running steel in the mill , I'll be making 2 , 1 for the loader and 1 for the TD40 .

cosworth34677 01-01-2013 04:31 PM

Re: How to make hydraulic valve?
 
so this is all steel? i want to try to make one of these, but i only can cut aluminum on the router table at work. can i use plastic on any parts? and why not aluminum? thanx for the thread guys lot of good info !!

RCP57 01-01-2013 04:45 PM

Re: How to make hydraulic valve?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cosworth34677 (Post 73951)
so this is all steel? i want to try to make one of these, but i only can cut aluminum on the router table at work. can i use plastic on any parts? and why not aluminum? thanx for the thread guys lot of good info !!

The top of the valve in the last pic is aluminum but the bottom is steel. I think that aluminum is "ok" as long as your rotors are made of brass or steel. Aluminum rubbing on aluminum will gall up even with oil in there. Aluminum just wears quickly and won't maintain the tolerences needed for very long. Plastic would not be a good choice in my opinion.

cosworth34677 01-01-2013 05:58 PM

Re: How to make hydraulic valve?
 
so what if you put some kind of "buffer" between the Aluminum? like a brass thin shim or washer? of even a brass gasket? the only reason i ask because again i only have the abillaty (<---spelled wrong) to cnc aluminum? the cnc router at work will only route softer metals only because of our bits. and the boss won't let me cut steel on it i asked before for parts for my real car.

Finster 01-01-2013 06:19 PM

Re: How to make hydraulic valve?
 
Perhaps some automotive gasket material between the 2 main pieces would work?

Like: http://www.autozone.com/autozone/acc...erial/_/N-25w7

jazza 01-13-2013 05:46 PM

Re: How to make hydraulic valve?
 
Thank all for you help me.

Newcastle 01-14-2013 01:08 PM

Re: How to make hydraulic valve?
 
When designing the valve say at 10mm and the valve body how much clearance should you give? Would you do the valve body at maybe 10.1mm?


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