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					Originally Posted by  Claus
					 
				 
				How do the Stahl and the Carson loaders compare for size and function?  I see the Carson is not the hydro model so I guess it's fair to say it's not up to it's full potential. 
			
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					Originally Posted by  tc1cat
					 
				 
				Claus, No offense taken. I just like to see something other than yellow all of the time on the construction equipment. Plus I am an armor nut    
 If Travis would have ran the Stahl, I could give you some answers. I think that the Carson is larger than the Stahl. I am running the Carson on a 2 cell LiPo and I believe that Travis is using a 3 cell so he gets a little more speed than I do. 
 
It was a fun day!!  
			
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 Having had my Stahl for a while now and playing with it in both dirt and the rubber it is a decent machine on 12V.
I have personally seen an all electric carson in the dirt. I ran Lynns before I painted it it  and I ran woodhogs hydro version at indy when we set up the radio.
I would say the carson wins hands down in both all electric and hydro versions.
1 the carson is bigger
2 the carson is a faster and more  powerful drive system on 7.2V compared to Stahl's 12V
3 the electric cylinders on the carson are close to the same speed as the Stahl. The carson hydros are faster than both. I would say due to the fitting and hose sizes being bigger than the ones on the Stahl.
4 the carson is still being made!
Travis