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Looking good Stefan. Can almost see the smile on your face when putting the parts together. Will parts be TIG ' ed together?
I learned from my model that if MIG 'ed it was easier to have the fingers a little shorter, more room for weld in hole. Dan |
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Thanks! I'm glad
![]() ![]() Dan, I usually spot weld using the TIG and afterwards the rest is hard soldered or glued (where strength is of less concern). I haven't actually learned TIG'ing ![]() Stefan |
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Top notch work! A lot of the 1:1 equipment I work on have parts built by the same tab / notch system -- makes welding everything together fast and accurate.
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Thanks! That´s really interesting. I didn´t know it is actually used in real life 1:1.
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I have now started assembling the "quadrants", i.e. the immediate supports for the grader blade. This is the original right side quadrant:
Here the left side one: And here my 1:8 attempt: Stefan Last edited by Stefan; 11-05-2017 at 07:53 AM. Reason: Link repair |
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Stefan, I´m speechless
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Amazing work!
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Alot of intricate parts... your head must be spinning at times!!!
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Nice work. This thing will be indestructible.
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Thanks guys!
@ Lil Giants You are right, it´s mostly spinning ![]() Here a few close-ups of parts for the articulation: The two center bolts (M3) and their nuts will be replaced by ones having a scale head. Edit: The rear eyes for the articulation cylinders are combined with the rear axle supports. Stefan Last edited by Stefan; 11-05-2017 at 08:01 AM. Reason: Link repair |
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I made some additional brackets and fixed them to the quadrants. As you´ll notice, the outermost parts of the bearing holders have now been attached. Today I´ll hard solder the joints.
At a late stage I noticed that there is a recess in the quadrant for the cross bar, so I added that to the model (adding by removing ![]() ![]() Stefan Last edited by Stefan; 11-05-2017 at 11:51 AM. Reason: Link repair |
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Soldering the joints looks realy good, did you have a owen to heat the parts (I don´t see any darkening in material from heat)?
And you used TIG to position the parts before soldering them together? Dan |
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Hi Dan, I already polished those parts rather thoroughly. Next pictures show the same parts after final soldering and acid cleaning in 25% vinegar with salt
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Hi, below some pictures from the build of the front frame.
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WOW!!!
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Very interesting! I get so used to seeing guys machine all these great models that I forget all about the possibility of laser cutting parts, and welding them together. Seems once you have your parts, the build would go a bit quicker then having to machine everything. You're making excellent progress! Keep it up.
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Agreed, although we should not forget that the skill to design something like that in CAD in a cost-effective and functional way is also considerable.
Ideally, you'd still need have some machined/turned parts, like Stefan's axle carriers. For smaller scales/models, I think you might find that glueing degreased metal offers more than enough strength, especially if you take it into account during design. |
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Very nice hard soldering joints. Looking like a 1:1 machine with all those weldments. Modern machines such as this are built from welding plates together. Much cheaper than yesterdays iron casting for everything. I'm stuck in yesterday with my antique machines; Riveting,casting,bolting, and sometimes welding.
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That's a great idea for building, using the tabs. It is inspiring to see what can be done. Any idea how long it might take you get this completed? Do you think the building process is going quicker with the tab design? Sure seems like a solid design.
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Thanks for the comments guys!
@ Espeefan & JensR: Yes, as 9W Monighan said, the real one is mostly plates, and since there is in any case quite enough work to be done, I decided to have most of the plates cut in a laser cutting shop. But some parts, like the hose bundling plate, I did myself ![]() Even by the size of my model there are several small-strain-to-area-ratio parts for which gluing will be quite sufficient. @ Vanisle: Someone in this thread said that the tab concept is used on some of the real machines, too. And yes, I reckon it´s much faster for a given accuracy (at least the one I want), in particular when you take advantage of the inherent accuracy of laser cutting. Just think of it - once the parts are made you can put them correctly together almost blindfolded. Regarding the time to completion I´m sorry: What you see started almost five years ago and is surely bound to take another five, if not more ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() And here´s the hose bundling plate (never shown to anyone, anywhere before ![]() Last edited by Stefan; 11-05-2017 at 12:15 PM. Reason: Link repair |
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